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dredleviathan
13-Feb-2003, 03:55 PM
I'm gutted I just heard that Erik Paulson is giving a two-day seminar at my club on March 15th and 16th... the very same weekend my firm are making me go to Zurich for a boring medical conference!

I may never speak to my boss again!

On top of which I'm probably set to miss Guro Dan again this year too.

:mad:

pesilat
13-Feb-2003, 03:59 PM
Ouch! That sucks. Erik is a great guy, a top notch martial artist, and a good instructor. His seminars are always a lot of fun.

Mike

YODA
13-Feb-2003, 10:24 PM
Marc McFann is at my club in Haydock on Feb 24th if you fancy a trip oop north!

(Passport needed for all southern jessies :D )

dredleviathan
14-Feb-2003, 10:46 AM
Aha the great southern jessy vs. northern monkey debate! Now there's a thread...

Seriously though thanks for the offer Yoda. I'm just checking to see if my watford gap visa can be extended further North. Is there a train or bus to Haydock? The 24th is a Monday right, what time of day is the seminar?

My first experience of McFann and at Yoda's... somebody fit me for a pine box!

YODA
14-Feb-2003, 11:34 AM
The seminar is 6pm-10pm and yes there are buses from St Helens or Wigan that go right past the club.

dredleviathan
18-Feb-2003, 10:25 AM
Hi Yoda,

:mad: Seems my boss has further plans to ruin my training - have a meeting Feb 24th at 3pm so not enough time to navigate to the wilds of the North!

Once again thanks for the ofer though its much appreciated! :)

Dred

YODA
18-Feb-2003, 05:06 PM
There's an Erik Paulson seminar in Northampton on Tuesday 11th - I can probably get you a place if your interested!

dredleviathan
19-Feb-2003, 09:08 AM
:( It goes from bad to worse, that's the very day I fly to Zurich! :(

I guess it just wasn't meant to be this time around... perhaps I should buy some of his tapes and work on them unitl he's over again next? There are so many though where do you start? I kind of had my eyes on the 5 DVD set althoughth its very expensive - have you heard anything much about these (or are there better ones for grappling dyslexics like myself)?

Other thoughts: does Marc McFann have any videos out? Maybe I should go with the homegrown Levo tapes?

Yoda - once again thanks for trying to hook me up with some decent alternatives I really do appreciate it. The other option is that you come down and make my boss an offer he can't refuse! :p

Cheers,

Dred

YODA
19-Feb-2003, 11:39 AM
Hi

Marc has about a dozen or so tapes - over half of them dealing purely with grappling.

If you don't have Levo's tapes yet then SHAME ON YOU! Buy them - buy them NOW!

Erik's tapes are very good - and I've heard good things about the DVDs. Which one first would depend on what part of your game you want to work on 1st.

dredleviathan
19-Feb-2003, 01:02 PM
:o Oops :o

Heads up Levo - cheque in the post!

So, say I thought I needed to work on positioning, what then?

By this I mean that I know basic positioning and submissions/locks etc but find it tought getting the position for them in free practice. There seems to be a tendency becasue I'm a fairly large cloke for my training partners to be, shall we say, over-enthusiastic! Also I suppose to a point its a matter of learning where I can get the various submissions from. Does that make sense?

SpongeBob
19-Feb-2003, 01:24 PM
Positions. Well a very good one for that, Roy Harris Brazilian Jui-Jitsu 101.

www.royharris.com

Levos tapes will help you get submissions from the side top and cross body positions.

Though if you are bigger than the people you spar with you have an immediate advantage, but this can also be a disadvantage. Over enthusiastic partners wont help you learn, cos your bigger they fight harder and more wild. You need someone you can work well with and learn together. :D

Levo
20-Feb-2003, 06:26 PM
dredleviathan
I kind of had my eyes on the 5 DVD set althoughth its very expensive - have you heard anything much about these (or are there better ones for grappling dyslexics like myself)?

It's an excellent series.

The first three (on takedowns against punches and the clinch) are very strong. Four and Five are a little weaker IMO, especially the last one on subs.

Erik's videos are great too, not really aimed at beginners though. His most newbie friendly tape is probably the Mount one, a very good tape

If you're a beginner there are better (and cheaper) choices than the DVDs IMO. The first two tapes in Roy Harris's BJJ 101 series are a good start.

Also, I can't recommend Matt Thornton's tapes highly enough. They've had the biggest effect on my training out of any vids. They will be available in the UK later this year from Karl Tanswell (he now has the European rights to all SBG tapes).

Originally posted by YODA
If you don't have Levo's tapes yet then SHAME ON YOU! Buy them - buy them NOW!

Thanks Yoda :D

I film the new vids next week, they are gonna rule!

dredleviathan
By this I mean that I know basic positioning and submissions/locks etc but find it tought getting the position for them in free practice. There seems to be a tendency becasue I'm a fairly large cloke for my training partners to be, shall we say, over-enthusiastic! Also I suppose to a point its a matter of learning where I can get the various submissions from. Does that make sense?

The Roy Harris tapes are your best start for position. Get the Matt Thornton tapes too for training advice.

And remember, the only way to improve your positions is to get on the mat and roll. You'll get some great tips from tapes but it's all down to your training :D

Nathan

YODA
20-Feb-2003, 06:37 PM
And remember, the only way to improve your positions is to get on the mat and roll. You'll get some great tips from tapes but it's all down to your training

AMEN to that!

dredleviathan
21-Feb-2003, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the advice guys. Thats most definitely the way I plan to play it too (the main reason I haven't got many tapes is that I don't want to fall into that trap that so many MA's do - you know the ones that have seen all the tapes know ten thousands variations but actually train about an hour a week). However I need to see some decent guys rolling to get some ideas and tapes seem a better option two and half years into my grappling training.

With that in mind we had a brilliant sparring session last night in which I finally pulled off a lovelly B2B suplex, got cross body and mount before I'd really thought about it... I was so surprised that I stood up straight away forgetting to go for a submission... doh!

Anyway Levo - cheque deifnitely on the way today!

Dred

pgm316
21-Feb-2003, 01:14 PM
B2B suplex! :) Have never dome one of those, how heavy was he!?

dredleviathan
21-Feb-2003, 03:47 PM
I think about 13.5-14 stone... it seemed impolite to stop and ask at the time:p He's about 6'2" and a little slighter built than me, but I think we weigh about the same.

Don't know which one of us was most surprised though!

Betcha anything you like I never manage it again...

pgm316
22-Feb-2003, 06:50 PM
Its a fair weight to suplex though!

Where did you get the idea, from watching WWF ;)

I must admit I have dome in the past. One night we were doing some locks and tack downs. I turned one in a DDT which proved to be very effective!

dredleviathan
24-Feb-2003, 11:43 AM
I guess its a fair weight but we were on mats so I wasn't really worried about my partner hitting the deck. As with most things its about technique rather than pure strength so really once you get the weight moving and off balance its fairly easy (ish).

As for inspiration - I've never even watched any WWF as I don't have Sky or cable. Our Vale Tudo classes are taken by Neil McLeod and its a move that he likes... we've drilled the entry so much that when it happened at some speed during the class the whole technique came out rather than just the entry. Basically my partners weight was heading over my shoulder anyway so I was kind of just guiding him further on.

But like I say I'm still a real beginner and I doubt I coudl pull it off if I was intending to do this specific move. Fun though!

OK so DDT? Wossthat?

I just realised that my B2B is open to some interpretation too as it coudl be belly to belly or belly to back. I was using the belly to belly throw.

YODA
24-Feb-2003, 12:19 PM
Ah! that''d be a C2C then :D

Chest to chest :D

dredleviathan
24-Feb-2003, 01:18 PM
In my case Yoda I tend to have to emphasize the Belly!!

pesilat
24-Feb-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by dredleviathan
In my case Yoda I tend to have to emphasize the Belly!!

LOL! I can relate to that (though I'm currently in the process of losing mine).

I've adopted the term "Buddha" for techniques that use the belly. So, for instance, if I've got someone's arm up against my gut and I squat down, I can apply a "Buddha armbar" where their arm is over my thighs and their elbow is under my gut. I can keep the armbar pressure on with my gut and that leaves my hands free to wreak havoc of their own elsewhere.

One of my instructors refers to the gut as the "second chest." :)

Mike

pgm316
24-Feb-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by dredleviathan

OK so DDT? Wossthat?


Erm, I'm not sure what other names for it are....

Its putting your oppononent in a standing guilotine headlock, then falling backwards, with a judo style leg trip if necessary to bring them down headbutting the ground.

Could quite a nasty move. Although not good if it doesn't work, because you've just pulled your opponent down to the ground with them on top of you :eek:

Freeform
24-Feb-2003, 04:05 PM
Kinda like a variant Rice Bale, but without flipping yourself ontop of your opponent.

There's a pic of Jim doing the rice bail in the photo section, or Taware Gaeshi, as we Judoka call it ;)

Col

pgm316
24-Feb-2003, 05:42 PM
Taware Gaeshi, thats the one, and I agree, quite devastating!