High percentage moves?

[YODA]

In groundfighting what do you consider to be your core "high percentage" moves?

Which escapes / pins / submission?

[just]

well I don't if there are high moves on there own on the ground, but i do find there are high percentage series of moves.

eg am hold my opponent in scaft hold and he pushes my face i figure 4 turn to cross body for the americana - work a lot, it he defends by joining hands and turning to the lock it usually pretty easy to insert the near arm and get the arm bar position.

I defo think the correct lock series rather than individual techs work better on the ground

[Freeform]

Figure 4
Rear Bar Choke
A variant of Juji gatame (probably does have a name, I just don't know it), where your basically doing Juji but your both face down.

Anyone got any good info on face bars?

Col

[Levo]

Originally posted by YODA
In groundfighting what do you consider to be your core "high percentage" moves?

Which escapes / pins / submission?

My most high percentage moves are:

Escapes: recovering guard
Sweeps: various elevator/hook types
Pins: side control
Submissions: triangle and armbar from guard and side control

Basically, if I'm on top I'm looking for side control, on the bottom I'm looking for butterfly guard or a climbing closed guard.

I try to vary things obviously, sometimes using knee on stomach, just using kimuras or whatever but the above is my basic grappling style.

IMO, a high percentage is anything you are good at and can apply against a resisting opponent. So, an omo plata may be high percentage for one guy and not another, it's not fundamentally "high percentage" or "low percentage".

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Sort of off topic but the common moves I think people need to know (in order) for good ground fighting are:

Positional Escapes

1. Side Mount
correct postures +
a) recovering guard
b) getting to knees (including back door)
c) reversals

2. Mount
correct postures +
a) reversals
b) recovering guard

Guard Passing

correct postures +
a) Underhook passes (2)
b) Knee through passes (2)
c) Around passes (1 high, 1 low)

Positional Dominance

a) Side Control
b) Mount
c) Guard (top & bottom)

Sweeps

a) scissors sweep
b) elevator sweep
c) chest to chest

Guard retention

Submissions

a) armbar
b) triangle
c) keylock
d) guillotine

[stump]

Escapes...

I'm lousy at escapes......an area I really need to work on


Pins

Side Control
Guard (above and below)
Scarf

My best subs (they seem to change from week to week!)

Chokes from scarf
keylock from scarf
Achilles lock
Triangle

[AllOutWar]

I find alot of over eager people or unexperined fighter extend there arm wich of course when I give them an arm bar. I don't know really any escapes I What I consider an escape Is setting them up for and finally getting a submission. I did like the triangle choke but have boycotted it for about 3 months now I got power bombed the last 2 times I did it. SO my high percentage submissionsare as followed
Arm bar
Guillitene choke ( I can't spell)
rearnaked choke
achillies lock
My submissions are limited and so is My BJJ knowledge but what I have I my arsenal is very effective. I'd rather know 2 or 3 things that I was excellent at then several that i was average. maybe one day I will say I excel at all, but as I've said before I don't feel BJJ is for the streets,it's for friends. I do Like how you control how much pain is inflicted though

[AllOutWar]

when I do use BJJ I almost always go to my back and get in my guard. Inexperienced fighters or even good fighters with no BJJ
knowledge take it as there dominant when in actuality in a matter of moments their about to start screaming like a little girl :mad:

[YODA]

I'd rather know 2 or 3 things that I was excellent at then several that i was average.

LOL! I hear ya!

I'm happy with the 2 or 3 things i have that are average and am working towards excellence LOL!

[AllOutWar]

I should refrase that I have a few submissions that I'm average at and improve everytime I use them or practice them. saying I'm excellent at them makes a sort of cocky statement wich I'm not.
Insightfullness my MASTER YODA:D

[Trent Tiemeyer]

Elbow escape

Side mount

Toehold, Wristlock, Kimura

[pgm316]

Whats the toehold?

[YODA]

It's where you hold the toe :D

Not sure what variation Trent is using but here's one from a recenmt seminar at my club...

http://www.cea.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ceaweb/images/marc_cea_feb03/marcfeb03_4.jpg

[Trent Tiemeyer]

Yes, a figure four on the ankle. There are a thousand ways to slap it on.

[Sambo Master]

what is the best way to choke someone on the ground

[YODA]

Originally posted by Sambo Master
what is the best way to choke someone on the ground

Hi and welcome to MAP :D

It depends on a few things - the most high %age move I would say is the rear naked choke - but you need the positional skill to take the back 1st.

I'm a big fan of the twisting choke from the guard - and the good old triangle which I use from just about every position.