Doom 3

[David]

I have to wait till the 13th to get this game. I can't bear it. :(

Anyone played it and want to wind me up even more?

;)

David

[Sever]

I want it too. I'm resisting the urge to go to a certain website and download it though...
Convieniently, the 13th is the day after payday, so I can definitely get it on the release date. Yay!

[Greg-VT]

Well... I've been playing it for about 8 hours....


WHOA!!!

[Kosh]

is it not out today? Ive heard the release day is today.

[Sever]

In America, I believe it was out yesterday. We always have to wait longer in the UK for some bizarre reason
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000067NYP/qid=1091794150/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-3739003-5926220

[Yukimushu]

Ive got it...

At first the graphics are amazing, the atmophere is incredible and spooky. Random noises around you make you wonder whats in the dark, and then because of the real time lighting you suddenly see faces emerge from the dark which scare you.

You can only either have the flashlight out, or a weapon. Never one or the other. So if you see an enemy in the dark, you have to change from the flashlight to the weapon. Then you can't see him and your taking pot shots to his location.

I'm up to the 5th level now and the graphics are getting better, the atmosphere is STILL dark (not come across a single light level which is kinda getting boring, it all looks the same (due to the engines lack of ability to create outdoor enviroments.)
It's not so scarey because your used to it, and you then suddenly realise how stupid all the enemys are. The devilish marines which have enough sense to reload, fire their machine gun, stick together etc are stupid and just move left and right and shoot at you.

The AI is REALLY poor (but when i talk to someone about this all they do is swear at me; i reckon its got something to do with the hype lol) the monsters either just walk at you then jump, or they just jump at you. They dont try and sneak around you, take you by supprise etc.

Pretty cool game tho i guess, i might go and give it another go in a second.

Outa 10 (ignoring all the hype etc which has gone into it) i'd give it 8 outa 10.
Graphics are incredible, atmosphere is great, AI is stupid, dark levels get boring, maps look the same.

Thats my personal oppinion though. If you want to insult me because im looking through the hype at the game, then feel free to do so :P

[Overmind1984]

If you are going to give a review of the game, please play the whole game first.

For me, Doom 3 was a wonderful experience after playing it all the way through. I do believe a lot of people expected more of the game, but Doom 3 does exactly what it set out to do. It does that very, very good for that matter.

Graphically, Doom 3 does an amazing job of creating an moody atmosphere. You will need a mid-range graphics card to be able to full enjoy this experience. Carmack did some aweseome stuff with this new engine and the level of polish of this game is beyond that of Blizzard games. While the majority of the levels are inside small rooms, it kind of makes sense given Doom 3 is a remake of the original. There are some really nice outdoor scenes, although they are limited to what is seen on a monorail ride.

The sound of Doom 3 is equally as immersive as the graphics. My one problem with the sounds is that most of the gunshot sounds are rather soft and dissappointing. Other then that, if you have a 5.1 sound set-up, the sounds really get you into the mood.

The gameplay design is about as old-school as it gets, but that is not a bad thing. Today's shooters tend to be more thinking games. If you go into Doom 3 hoping that it will cause you to think a lot, you will be dissappointed. The general concept is run to next room, throw bullets in every direction for a few seconds, rinse and repeat. Though, Id did some awesome work with the whole PDA and computer system idea, having to dig through medical reports and video files for a code to the next room can get pretty interesting. These puzzle like elements aren't hard enough to take away from the action, so no worries there. The attention to detail that was put in the back story really helps to get the player immersed into the game.

Almost forgot the AI, which to most probably seems dissappointing. Most monsters do just run at you with full force, but looking at what they are makes that seem only right. They are hell spawn and zombies with no fear and its not like hell doesn't have plenty more demons if they loss a couple. Single enemies also tend to be pretty easy due to lack of speed, but after playing through the game I forgot what a single enemy looks like. Towards the end of the game, you can be looking at mabye eight enemies at a time. Given the tight quarters and lack of light; this is plenty to make the game difficult.

The game looks awesome. The game sounds incredible. The gameplay is as true to the original Doom as it comes. If that sounds fun to you, then you will not be dissappointed by Doom 3.

I will have to give Doom 3 a 9.5 out of 10. I never knew going to Hell could be so fun! :)

[Yukimushu]

But its 2004 and i want something more from a game lol. I dont wanna be playing a game i'd played a good few years ago but with shineyer graphics. I wanna be playing something which gameplay is as revolutionary as the graphics.

Like i said, its merely my opinion.

[Overmind1984]

Not to critizice, you probably shouldn't play a remake if you looking for something new. ;) Actually, unless you really kept tabs on the game, most didn't know it was a remake so I get where your coming from.

[Kirberus]

Yes, very good game. I'd give it a 9. I already wrote my review in my journal though so I'm not gonna write another here. I agree that the AI is a bit simple, and for the most part, that's okay. The zombies should only attack like that, they are mindless and fearless. The enemies all acted like they did in the original doom, which was acceptable due to the engine. Now with a new engine and new capabilities they should do a bit more. Like the imps. You see them climbing on the wall towards you and then they jump off. They either throw fireballs at you or they charge in with an attack. They have the occassional leap that they do to avoid attacks but it's not used enough. They should have made them climb on the walls and fight you at the same time. They climb before they spot you, so why not during the fight possibly jumping off at you. The game is still great though. If you liked doom you will love this. It is extremely scarey too, playing in surround with the lights off in the middle of the night. Although as Yukimushu pointed out, you get used to it after a while. And the level design can get a little boring. But this IS doom we are talking about. It's just doom with updated engine and uber graphics. It still plays and tries to be like the originals that everyone loved and it does a good job of it. My biggest problem is the extremely high requirements to play the game at ultra high quality or even high quality. I don't have $400 to spend on graphics cards every 1-2 years. :( Still looks good on my Geforce FX 5900, but I was under the impression when I bought it that it was gonna be top of the line for a while, like half a year at least. Turned out to only be top of the line for a month. :( Enough rant out of me now, time to play some multiplayer doom 3 :D

[Yukimushu]

Well it's called Doom 3 :) rather than The return of doom or doom 2.5 or something silly. You expect a good few years difference in technology and programming to make more a difference than what it has.

As Kirberus said, the ability for some of the lizard like creatures to climb on the walls would have been an excellent addition. But unfortunatly, they do not.

Personally i wouldnt say that Doom 3 has lived up to my expectations considering the technological advancements in gaming since the original doom 2.

It's still an excellent game and definatly recommend everyone to give it a go though.
Just my oppinion though.

[Kirberus]

Well, I consider it to be a good thing that they continued along the same lines as the first two. But that's just me.

I don't think it lives up to the hype either, but yes, it is still a good game. I second Yukimushu's recommendation.

[Kirberus]

Was that when you just got the chainsaw, because I see the guy you killed had a chainsaw in hand(I think that's what that is).

Yes, the chainsaw is awesome, very powerful too, if you like getting up in the enemies face. :D

[Greg-VT]

Sorry to spoil the fun, but Under 15 yr olds browse this forum. Their parents or themselfs (*cough*) may not consider that image to be appropriate content for a forum such as this.

[Saz]

What he said...

[Yukimushu]

What he said...

Sad truth is that the parents of those 15 year olds are most likely going to be the people buying their children the game. I understand though; it is a shame because it was a good screenshot :)


Kirberus: Yes, that was about 5 mins after i picked up the chainsaw. It's great fun firing it up and charging into a room full of enemys :D

[Kirberus]

Yes truely a good screenshot. :D

So true about who buys the games. Very sad thing is that those are the same parents blaming video games for violence usually. I bought my son a violent video game and he killed someone. The game did it, I'm not a bad parent...

I do see the reason for taking it down though. Being an open forum, it was too violent for the youngsters.

[Kosh]

There is a wider context. The game is a milestone in gaming technology and there will be a rift of future games which use the doom engine. Quake 4 i believe is next...if you look at it like that, its quite an achivement.

[alex_000]

Been playing two hours or so. Looks and runs great . I didn;t like it much at first but i like it more as i play..

It's gonna be close I guess between that and Far cry...

Doom And doom 2 where the games I played most on my life as a gamer (and i play games a lot. Errrrr ... A LOT )

[KenpoDavid]

SCARY!!!!!

I can only play about 20 minutes then I have to go unwind, then I can play some more.

t's gonna take me forever to get thru it at this rate :)

[nunchukpaul]

Come out friday cant WAIT!!! two more days :D :Angel: Pity i just spent all my money on boxing gloves :o

[Greg-VT]

SCARY!!!!!

I can only play about 20 minutes then I have to go unwind, then I can play some more.

t's gonna take me forever to get thru it at this rate :)
Heh he.

I was like that for the first 4 or so hours... Get to a certain spot, save, exit, turn on lights, turn off monitor, and walk right out to the room.


Back again in halfa :D

[Yukimushu]

Been playing two hours or so. Looks and runs great . I didn;t like it much at first but i like it more as i play..

It's gonna be close I guess between that and Far cry...

Doom And doom 2 where the games I played most on my life as a gamer (and i play games a lot. Errrrr ... A LOT )

Awww Far Cry is an excellent game isn't it :D

I have a problem on Doom 3 where I get to a point where i know ive killed all the enemys, then continue to move through the rooms...

As soon as see, hear and enemy or a strange noise, i crap meself and run back to that point i talked of above where i know its safe; and i just calmy crouch in the corner, gun in hand and a whimper on the tounge :)

[alex_000]

LOL i'm generally easy scared in games, but for some strange reason I' not scared at doom so much , and its supposed to be the scarier of all , go figure. I guess i se the new remade monsters as old friends from the original DOOM. But i run at the most secure place every time the enemys come out.

The one part i craped my self , whas when the marine entered a room with a mirror - a toilet i think- with flashlight on hand , and the screen imedietly zoomed at the mirror and showed the marine turn into a zombie .. Wow that was scary..

Painkiller was damn good too.

This was a great year for fps (and still waiting HL2)

[Yukimushu]

Yea! i know that part!!! that made me jump as well :D glad to see im not the only guy who's jumping all the time whilst playing it :D

It's the weird scarey noises which scare the hell outa me; the whispers, the groans and the clanks you hear within the depth of the darkness infront of you :S


I can't wait for HL2 meself, that game looks so cool! the leaked E3 version was really cool, so heres hoping for the final game! :D

[Kirberus]

Yes, HL2 is gonna be so increadibly awesome. I got scared at the mirror part too but not that much, guess I don't scare that easily.

I didn't like FarCry too much. The enemies, not the other humans but the monster things, took WAY too much damage before dying, it was just annoying. It wasn't even hard at all until the very end. The beginning was great, but I don't think it was worth buying. I think I may have overplayed the demo levels, those were the best levels in the game and they were avaliable for free. Well, at least that's how I feel about it. :D

[AAAhmed46]

Doom has always had a good story. I mean, in the first and second game, there was a story section, you read up on it and you got the story!

There was even a thick ass novel written just on the doom world and the story it self. I saw it once, but dont know where to get it now.

Anythign on story?

[Kirberus]

Well, I play doom to shoot things not read. In the first two you didn't have to get involved in the story, in the third they make you learn about the story as it's a vital part of the game, plus it's not nearly as boring as just reading the story.

[alex_000]

Come on ... On Doom It was 1 page with 320x200 resolution letters after each huge chapter, It wasn't so boring :D

The more i play the more i like D3, it reminds me of the old dooms *sigh* ...

[Yukimushu]

lol you seem to like your doom games alex :D only game i really play these days is battlefield:vietnam online. Im not such a huge fan of single player games... especially when its the year 2004 and we're blessed with fast internet connections.

[Kirberus]

Yes true, multiplayer makes game better usually.

I probably read the story to the first Doom games but I don't think I remember most of it, I usually played multiplayer Doom rather than the single player.

[alex_000]

lol you seem to like your doom games alex :D only game i really play these days is battlefield:vietnam online. Im not such a huge fan of single player games... especially when its the year 2004 and we're blessed with fast internet connections.

You are . I'm blessed with t3h d34dly 56K connection.

384K dsl = 50 euros/month thats too much for now.

[David]

Does Doom 3 have network capability? If it doesn't, I'll get BF:Vietnam

[Greg-VT]

Does Doom 3 have network capability? If it doesn't, I'll get BF:Vietnam
Sure does...

I have'nt tried it though.

[Sever]

Well Doom 3 is finally mine. It was really great to watch my dad cry when he saw how sweet it runs on my pc (we've always competed over who's got the better system, only now he realises he's lost by miles. If he sells the car, I'll be worried). The screams over the radio at the start are really creepy.
I was very surprised how many mods there are out already, even though it's only been out a week or so in the states. I've finally fixed that stupid "no torch and gun" thing.
All in all, and I haven't played much yet, I'm very impressed and pleased with my purchase. Right, I'm off to kill some hellspawn!

[Kirberus]

I suggest not using the no flashlight and gun at the same time things your first time through... It kinda ruins the feeling they were trying to get with the game, you needing to use the flashlight to see but you can't use it and shoot at the same time so you gotta guess where the enemy is. Once you play through it once the way it's designed to be played then you should go back through, possibly on a harder difficulty, and use the mod.

[Yukimushu]

Does Doom 3 have network capability? If it doesn't, I'll get BF:Vietnam

Only has 4 player max i believe...

[Cain]

Two words sum this thing up -

Scary game!!! :eek:

|Cain|

[Kirberus]

Only has 4 player max i believe...
I think it's 8 player but I know there are servers with 16 players out there so it's possible to do more.

[Overmind1984]

Offically, it supports only 4 players, but not even a day after released did people have 8 and 16 player servers.

[Kirberus]

Alright, well since there are 16 player servers it doesn't really matter what the official supported number is. I'm extremely dissapointed in the multiplayer though, they spent so long making it look good and having a good single player that they forgot that multiplayer was also part of the game.

[ShadoWalker]

That game scares ma homeboy! he wont play it alone LOL itz so funny wen dat game scarez him u shud see it! :D

[Yukimushu]

Alright, well since there are 16 player servers it doesn't really matter what the official supported number is. I'm extremely dissapointed in the multiplayer though, they spent so long making it look good and having a good single player that they forgot that multiplayer was also part of the game.

ID said the when they were making the game that it was designed to be single player. Thus they spent more time working on single player than they did multiplayer.

[Kirberus]

Yes, true, but in this day and age that is unnacceptable. If you want to make a great game it needs to have multiplayer for the replay value. That's one of the reasons I didn't like FarCry, beat the single player on various difficulties, then played multiplayer and it completely changed my outlook on the game. It was horrible, it also didn't help that there were no skilled people playing either, it was always so easy to win.

Games developed for single player don't need as much multiplayer as say UT2004 which is all multiplayer, but they should give some good multiplayer features too to keep people interested for a while. I'm already done with Doom 3, beat it on normal and nightmare, and the multiplayer isn't worth the time. I might pick up the game in a year or so and play it but that's about it. I think mp is a vital part of all, at least pc, games nowadays.

[Cain]

I reached hell, and it took me a ton of pushing to do so, the game actually bored me after 4 sectors of alpha labs, it's scary at first but later you can predict each and every next scare to come, omg, a new room! There's an imp somewhere around or will spawn behind you, oh look! Some ammo, but I know when I'll take it some hiddem door in the shadows behind me will open and a zombie will come out. It gets really predictable, and there's waaaaaaay too many imps around, the game just gets repetative as you advance.....it seems as if your going through the same rooms with "copied and pasted" imp scripts around, they put just too many of them in there, and the level desing could be improved too, there were too many "been there done that" feelings, and lots of backtracking through a map bores me peesonally with extra enemies as you come by again.

I just wish they had put as much attention to the gameplay as to the graphics engine......

|Cain|

[Yukimushu]

I only really play online games these days. Im playing CS: source & battlefield nam at the moment :) But looking forward to half life 2! :D