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Labatt
15-Jan-2003, 10:23 PM
A friend told me that it's banned from any national or international TKD events.

Is this true? I though wtf, this kids krazy! Im going to be gettting some soon, so I just wanna be sure.

Any side effects? Is it safe? And most importantly, does it have some ****, where you can get your medal pulled, and be disqualifired?

iolair
15-Jan-2003, 10:29 PM
I use it ... AFAIK its purely "food" and doesn't have any weird additives or substances that could cause it to be banned.

As for side effects ... since using it I've picked up viruses/colds less often and put on muscle much more quickly :D

(BTW, I'm vegetarian and struggle to get enough protein without taking supplements. For my weight and training I should get at least 110g of protein a day, without supplements I'm lucky to manage 50g).

YODA
15-Jan-2003, 10:40 PM
Banning whey protein - Bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa.........

That wouldbe like banning chicken or fish

Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...........

Take it - but make sure is a high BV Isolate not a crappy concentrate.

LilBunnyRabbit
15-Jan-2003, 11:16 PM
Gimme a nice, large, rare steak over some synthetic junk any day.

YODA
15-Jan-2003, 11:30 PM
You don't take whey protein? With a hunk of a physique like yours? Wow! I'd never have guessed :D

I'll take both thanks.

The steak because it's nice.

The whey isolate because I know exactly what I'm getting - unlike the steroid & junk fed beast that gave up its flesh for the steak.

Labatt
16-Jan-2003, 12:52 AM
I went to TKD today and talked to that kid.

He said a Doctor told him that. I told him that's BS!

While were on the subject of whey, what one should I get?

Any whey will be fine?

TkdWarrior
16-Jan-2003, 01:03 AM
gimme a break...
wat they gonna make us do now??
Fasting till the competition r over?
anyone which is recommended by WHO would do fine...otherwise consult ur doc.
-TkdWarrior-

YODA
16-Jan-2003, 06:48 AM
I use EAS Simply Protein

Cain
16-Jan-2003, 07:22 AM
Well, I never take supplements but my doctor had advised me to keep an egg summerged inside water overnight, then the next day I hv to crack it and drink that! euch! The taste is bad though! But I hv a specific bone prob, that's why he recommended it.

Why I am boring u with this story is because I think that eggs hv a high concentration of protien..........not a diet expert but correct me if I am wrong........

|Cain|

YODA
16-Jan-2003, 07:34 AM
Sounds like you're going to a Witch Doctor LOL!

Take a good strong multivitamin & mineral daily.
Use whey pritein to top up your diet to about 1g Protein per kg of bodyweight per day (1g per Kg if you're lifting regularly)
Take Creatine if you can afford it and are lifting.
Don't forget the two most effective "supplements" - plent of water & enough recovery time.

Cain
16-Jan-2003, 07:40 AM
Thanx for that Yoda, just a question though.......r there any side effects, even if small ones? 'Cause if I never took supplements in my life........and the only one which I was aware of was steroids ;)

|Cain|

YODA
16-Jan-2003, 07:47 AM
Yes Cain - there are side effects...

Increased energy
Increased recovery time
Better athletic performance.

Cain
16-Jan-2003, 07:49 AM
LOL! That sums it all up I guess :D

Thanx :)

|Cain|

iolair
16-Jan-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by YODA
per kg of bodyweight per day (1g per Kg if you're lifting regularly)I've read that studies suggest 1.2 to 1.7g per kg is necessary for heavy training (see The Complete Guide to Sports Nutrition by Anita Bean).

simonlarcombe
16-Jan-2003, 10:58 AM
Just a little info I remember from times past.

Apparently your body can only absorb 30g of protein at once so you need to split up your meals accordingly.

When I dappled with serious weights a few years ago I was eating 5 meals a days made up from the following:

60g Carbohydrate
30g Protein
10g Fat

I would guess that at the time I weighed about 90Kg.

It worked for me.

Having said that, this is a body builders diet and might not be ideal for your purposes... the main point was that your body can only absorb 30g at a time.

pgm316
16-Jan-2003, 11:39 AM
Only 10g of fat Simon?, recommended daily limits are 70g female and 90g male, thought a weight lifter would have had much more considering the energy you'd use?

simonlarcombe
16-Jan-2003, 11:54 AM
I think diets could be quite a debatable subject!

I'm only describing what I was advised at the time and as I say the results were good (what happened!).

My instructors advice was actually not to worry about the fat too much but I did stick to the original recommendation for quite a while.

Fat = energy?

(I personally wouldn't take the governments advice too seriously! I expect they paid someone X Million pounds to pull those figures out of the air :D )

simonlarcombe
16-Jan-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by simonlarcombe


Fat = energy?



:eek: So it does! Shows you how much I know :D

LilBunnyRabbit
16-Jan-2003, 12:49 PM
You don't take whey protein? With a hunk of a physique like yours? Wow! I'd never have guessed

Hey, don't forget I also don't lift, or even go to the gym often.

Freeform
16-Jan-2003, 12:58 PM
Hey Yoda, should you use Creatine in conjunction with Whey Protein?

Could you give us a brief synopsis on the major different types of proteins on the market?

Go on, you know you want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Col

Labatt
17-Jan-2003, 12:24 AM
LOL, thanks for the replies guys.

I talked to that guy again, and he said that a doctor told him, that the producers may add a lil "Something" in there, and the consumers don't have to know. To make there product better.
I laughed, and gave up talking to him.

khafra
21-Jan-2003, 03:04 PM
I drink milk. It has 2g of whey protein and 6g of calcium caseinate per serving, plus a free dose of whatever steroids they gave the cow. I can't lose!

(BTW, it's true some supplements can be contaminated with other things, but this is very rare, and whey protein itself would be impossible to ban--like I noted above, it's in milk.)

YODA
21-Jan-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Freeform
Hey Yoda, should you use Creatine in conjunction with Whey Protein?

Absolutely!

And Glutamine too if you're trying to cut flab.


Could you give us a brief synopsis on the major different types of proteins on the market?

Go on, you know you want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Col

I'd love too - I'll put it on my articles list :D

I'm so busy right now it's scary!

Labatt
24-Jan-2003, 11:37 PM
Update. I bought the best. Mammoth 2500. 66 grams of protein in 1 serving. 1200 cals mixed in a glass of milk.

YODA
25-Jan-2003, 07:19 AM
66g per serving?

Take half a serving then - your body won't assimilate that much in one go.

1200cals? Sounds like there more than just protein in there. 66g of Protein = 264 calories.

I just did a Google search. Mammoth 2500 is a weight gain power containing protein - not just a protein powder. I hope you need all those extra calories or you're gonna be one lard arse!

Bon
25-Jan-2003, 10:09 AM
YODA, should we be counting calories?

I've adopted the belief we should be counting carbs since that's what we use for energy, and if we don't burn them up, our body stores them...

Cain
25-Jan-2003, 10:39 AM
Mammoth 2500 is a weight gain power containing protein - not just a protein powder.

Maybe that's why he counted calories.......

|Cain|

Labatt
26-Jan-2003, 03:41 AM
Dude, my metabolism is high. Im having so much trouble gaining weight it's not even funny! It has ALOT of protein, and alot of cals. I need it to gain some mass.

Labatt
26-Jan-2003, 03:41 AM
So, it's better to only have a "Whey Protein" product, than Mammoth???????

ROBERT
26-Jan-2003, 06:36 AM
All of the "extra" stuff in Mammoth is not going to be used to build muscle.(that is what the whey protein is for). If you want those "extra" calories eat a stick of butter dipped in syrup.

As yoda said your body will only utilize approx. 30 grams of protein at a time.

Robert

khafra
28-Jan-2003, 03:42 PM
Weight gainers are good for gaining weight. They have a lot of protein, a lot of carbs, and a lot of fat.

MRPs are good meal replacements. They have less fat and carbs, and usually a slower-digesting protein like casein, egg albumin, and/or soy in addition to whey.

Post-workout mixes usually have either whey concentrate or isolate, very little fat, and sometimes no carbs (this is only necessary/beneficial on a ketogenic diet). They're made to drive as much nutrient into your muscle as they can, as quickly as possible, during the metabolic boost right after a workout.