Wing Chun or TKD

[Blevunly]

Who do you think would win in a fight between two equally matched people Who study Wing Chun and TKD and why?

[JohnnyX]

Who do you think would win in a fight between two equally matched people Who study Wing Chun and TKD and why?

Does it blummin matter? :rolleyes:

[Adam]

The one who's training at a non-McDojo

[Andy Murray]

Who do you think would win in a fight between two equally matched people Who study Wing Chun and TKD and why?

Whoever got their matches lit first! ;)

What folks are saying Blevunly, is that these style vs style threads bever lead to productive discussion I'm afraid.

Read about both arts on the forum, and make your own mind up!

( Pssst, Wing Chun would win ;) )

[GhostRider]

Instead of fighting they could combine styles or just teach each other their moves and come up with an "UBER-MARTIAL" with great footwork AND hand-to-hand strikes, etc... or they could buy each other a beer and call it a day... :rolleyes: :p ;)

[d33pthought]

good call! Besides, I actually did that with a wing chun guy..works wonders. We thought of calling that the "You show me yours and I'll show you mine over a beer or three" technique.

[Scarlet Mist]

Yes, they are right. Style vs Style threads go nowhere. It doesn't matter who would win, Wing Chun or TKD, because CHOY LI FUT owns all!!!!

:woo:

[minimal]

I'm not sure that these kinds of threads are useless.

I mean there's often no answer, or getting one would require something onerous, like getting 15 practitioners of each style with 1 - 6 years experience and having 15 matches and declaring a winner that way. Would only be scientific with a large number of fighters.

But I am interested to find out what people think. There can be truth in it and it can help to imagine what additions or changes might make any MA better.

I don't know much about WC but I find it interesting. I can only imagine things, but I would guess it would take time for someone to become proficient in dealing with long-range kicks if learning WC.

I do wonder about combining the styles. The reason you don't usually kick much, especially high kicking, is that it makes you vulnerable, and a WC fighter remains calm and centered and waits for their opponent to make a mistake, to create a vulnerability, and they explode into it. I also wonder how well that works against a TQD or MT kick.

[CosmicFish]

I doubt you'd ever get a truly unbiased experiment. I train in Wing Chun, and among my fellow students and our instructors are people who've never done anything else before, right through to those who hold black belts (or their equivalent) in several other arts.

But at the end of the day I agree with the "who cares" group. I hear a lot of talk from other Wing Chun students along the lines of "it's better than other arts" and it really annoys me. Every art has its strengths and its weaknesses. Perhaps a good alternative to this kind of thread would be the "what advantages and disadvantages do they have over each other". How about we give Blevunly the benefit of the doubt and assume that's what he meant to ask?

[SavageHenry]

The one of the two who hits the hardest, fastest, most accurately and is just generally the meaner of the two. Or the one with the chloroform, hard to stay awake with a nose full of that stuff. :D

[Developing]

It's not the style it's the practitioner.

[minimal]

I think the practitioner is key, but the same person going down one path with one style or another path could be different in terms of their overall strengths, or particular abilities.

I know of a couple of things in which I would consider WC to be untouchable, principally sensitivity training and speed /tactics in bridging range.

TQD has kicks which are not duplicated anywhere else, and I'd suppose they might have claim to one or a number of kicks as being better than any other MA's.

A couple of opinions have surfaced in this thread, to the effect that he of the harder punches and the quickest to attack, whoever goes mental most will win. Is this how TQD tends to go? In WC a mistake might be absence from defensive or offensive presence in a certain place but more likely would be trying to attack where there was no weakness in the first place. (Might depend on the school.)

Chloroform? THAT's what was missing from all my fights!

[kungfufighter]

depends on who is faster and has stronger strikes. And smarter.

[Nick K]

I do Wing Chun and TKD. I beat myself regularly with either style.. :rolleyes:


C'mon people - it's the artist not the art. And if they really are equally trained - and I have no idea how you'd measure this - then it's luck or whoever is having an off day will get caught.

[axelb]

Who do you think would win in a fight between two equally matched people Who study Wing Chun and TKD and why?


aha it's a trick question:

they would draw as they are two equally matched people :D

the end. :cool:

[TheMightyMcClaw]

I know this is kind of against the rules, but I'm going to attempt to actually answer the question.

What I've gathered from watching old UFC bouts and exhibition matches... when two skilled fighters go up against each other mano y mano, the one who operates at a closer range tends to have an advantage. I guess it's just easier to close the gap than it is to re-open it. As Wing Chun tends to focus on close-range punching and Tae Kwon Do tends to focus on long-range kicking, I would (all other things being equal) favor the Wing Chun practicioner.

Again, I know ambiguous "whichever fighter is better" -type answers are the socially acceptable ones, I'm going to be rebel on this one.

[Raymund Suba]

Well, I think the main thing here is the clause "equally skilled". holding everything equal, I would have to say it has to be the luckier guy. Don't laugh, this is true. no matter how hard you train there's nothing you can do about that little rock that'll trip you, or the bad change in the wind that blows dust in your face.

[Topher]

Does it blummin matter? :rolleyes:
My thought exactly!

[LJoll]

My thought exactly!

I think ot does matter though. I don't see how all arts can be exactly the same. For instance if Wing Chun didnt have bog sau it wouldnt be as good. Would Wing Chun then be worse than all the other matial arts. You cant blame someone for wanting to do the best MA. The problem is there are so many variables and some arts are better for certain people than other, but still I think some arts are better than others. But more important is how its taught.

[Albert]

I'm not sure that these kinds of threads are useless.

Well...they are. Mainly because my art is better than everyone elses, and cannot be beat cause its flawless and all powerful.

[minimal]

Most people will favor their own art.

In most cases if a combat martial art was against a sport martial art, I would know which way to bet in a combat situation, and I would likely bet the other way if the competition involved a ring and rules.

If we take the question literally, 'evenly matched' means it's even odds. But if the artists trained equally long, I would go with the nature of the art to guess as to its effectiveness. I do have some beliefs as to which styles might beat which others, but it's based on guesswork.

[Topher]

I think ot does matter though. I don't see how all arts can be exactly the same. For instance if Wing Chun didnt have bog sau it wouldnt be as good. Would Wing Chun then be worse than all the other matial arts. You cant blame someone for wanting to do the best MA. The problem is there are so many variables and some arts are better for certain people than other, but still I think some arts are better than others. But more important is how its taught.
The only way you can define the best martial arts is to look at the goals of the indevidual person. Lets say we do decide Wing Chun is the best martial art overall, then someone who dosn't want a self defence based style, or dosn't want to use their arms as the primary weapon, or even dont have use of there arms, then the evaluation [of Wing Chun] wouldn't be appropiate at all.

Then theres the old adage that it "isn't the style, but the person", which is very true. There are some very good TKD school out there, and the are some very bad ones (how many of each is a whole new thread). So to define a whole style as "best" again isn't very accurate.

One persons treasures is another persons rubbish ;)

[gaz shaw]

It's not the style it's the practitioner.
OMG hes hit the nail with that one, well done, my thoughts exactly.