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Joe karate
02-Jan-2003, 05:05 PM
Hi guys. I wrestled on my high school team for three years but have stopped this year as it interfered with Shaolin Kempo. But i miss grappling as i need to be able to fight on the ground(kempo is all striking, our instructor does very little ground work in class)
Do you think I can learn more through videos/books? If so can you recommend anything. I have a feel for grappling but wrestling has no submissions/locks/chokes. Thanks

P.S. I think i can do some BJJ in summer(i hope it ain't a McDojo)

SpongeBob
02-Jan-2003, 06:26 PM
Hmmmmm well I'm probably not the best person to advise because I have not done any ground work until a few months ago. But I find it very difficult to learn the fine points of a technique from a video or book. Not so much the submissions, more so the positions and escapes.

Nothing is better if you can find it that a training partner who you can learn with.

If you can go to a BJJ school the go for it, if it is any good, you'll be learning new stuff in no time :D

Acekicken
03-Jan-2003, 02:23 AM
Some Good Books are
1- Armlocks By Neil Adams
2- Grappling Master By Gene Lebell
3- The Essence of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu By Rigan Machado
4- Ken Shamrocks In side the Lions Den By Ken Shamrock & Richard Hanner.
5- Dynamic Ju Jitsu By Wally Jay.
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There are many other good books
but these are some of my favs.
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Videos
Mike Swain's Grappling Tapes
Marco Ruas
Frank Shamrock

Again there are many more

Wrestling is a good foundation
But to be a complete Grappler U must Have some Submisson Skills.
As Well as Defence From The Guard,Mount,CrossSide
North n South Knee Pin.
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Kenpo is Good For Many Things As Well Practise
The Traps in Side The Guard for both ofence & Defence

Joe karate
03-Jan-2003, 03:50 PM
Thanks. I have a training partner, my brother studies just like me and wants to branch out into other things than Kempo. My Kempo instructor would also let us use the dojo at off times. I just figured out wrestling can get me killed and I'll have to modify it for street grappling. I saw UFC VI last night, the traditional wrestlers all got choked out by shooting a takedown the "wrestling way".(Shamrock vs. Severn)
Thanks.

Joe karate
03-Jan-2003, 03:53 PM
Acekicken: It says in your profile that you teach in NY. Do you teach submission wrestling or arnis and where? Over the summer I want to do more grappling as school gets in the way now. Submission wrestling seems worth a try.

Acekicken
03-Jan-2003, 10:12 PM
Yes I Teach in Buffalo N.Y.
At Horizon Martial Arts.
I Teach Submisson Wrestling Twice a Week
Tues & Thurs
Im Am Also A Black Belt in Ju Jitsu Through
The North American Ju Jitsu Federation.
And A Black Belt in Modern Arnis Through The WMAA

I Teach Gi & No Gi Technique.

I Teach Beginer Through Intermedit Arnis on Monday
School # is 673 0899
Everyone is Welcome =-)

Joe karate
04-Jan-2003, 02:00 AM
Maybe in the summer I'll try to get there. I don't know how I'll get there but that's not important right now. You see I'm only 16 and live in Holbrook on Long Island. Hopefully I'll have my license to drive in June so it's possible. It's not that far away from me.

Acekicken
04-Jan-2003, 02:07 AM
We would be glad to have U
& can even help With a place to stay
All The Grapplers are friendly & are always
opean to new Friends.

Joe karate
05-Jan-2003, 05:27 PM
Thanks, now i can't wait for summer! I just picked up Brazillian Jiutitsu by renzo and Royler Gracie. Started practicing with my brother and it's great. Also got the jiu jitsu book. Thanks guys.

Acekicken
05-Jan-2003, 05:30 PM
Cool Good Luck with the training.
Look farward to the summer my self.

Sambo Master
03-Jul-2003, 04:47 PM
I love grappling but i neglected mine for a year and i regretted it
now i am trying to build myself bak up and its hard.
get back to what you like doing and stick at it b4 its too late