FMA in U.K.

[Bayani]

I see that there is a predominant amount of practitioners from U.K. in this forum, may I ask what systems of FMA abound in U.K. and what kind of competitions have been held there? Example Wekaf, Dog Bros etc?

[LabanB]

Hi Bayani,

Systems (in no particular order of prefernce):

Doce Pares
Inosanto-Lacoste
Illustrissimo
Warriors
Ligthening Scientific Arnis
Rapid Arnis
Kaputarian (sp?)
Balintawak
Lapunti

Tournaments:

WEKAF
DB style (under the Black Eagle group)
Krishna Godhania's style - limited info available at the present time, but basically three rounds covering different ranges and targets within those ranges.

Naturally there are more styles being taught here in the UK, but the above gives you an idea of whats available.

Bill

[Pat OMalley]

Hi Bill,
Hope you are well, you also have to mention such groups as the Black Eagle Group (different from the Black Eagle Society) they teach the style of the late Momoy Canete. And not forgetting the various Latosa groups that style has been in the UK for over 40 years and of course Modern Arnis.

with note to you (SP?) Kapatiran is how it is spelt it means Brotherhood and is the group headed up by my old long time sparring partner John Harvey.

Anyway, keep me updated with any events happening in the UK and I will post them on my web site.

All the best
Pat O'Malley
Cheif Instructor Rapid Arnis International

[DeeTee]

Hi Pat,

As far as I know there's only one Black Eagle Eskrima group here in the UK and they represent Grand Master Carlos Navarros who now resides in Brisbane.

[LabanB]

Hi Pat, Doug,

My reference to the "DBstyle (under the Black Eagle group)", was intended to indicate Pats full contact, minimal armour gatherings! Yep, should ahve mentioned the Latosa system and its off shoots (i.e. Blind Princess Escrima, British International Fighters Federation etc), plus Modern Arnis, although I'm not aware of anyone formally teaching MA. Any clues as to who this is/are?

Bill

[Pat OMalley]

DEE TEE your absolutely right, I got my wires crossed. Hi Bill, yep there is a guy teaching Modern Arnis here in the UK near Leicester, I bumped into him at the 2003 seni, cant remember his name but I will find out were and who he is as I have had a couple of flyers from him in the past and even promoted one of his seminars earlier in the year on my web site.

Silly me for forgetting his name, I think the old mind is begining to fade with age or more than likely I have been bashed in the head too many times with good old rattan and kamagong.

All the best

Pat

[LabanB]

Hi Pat,

>Silly me for forgetting his name, I think the old mind is begining to fade with age or more than likely I have been bashed in the head too many times with good old rattan and kamagong<

Yeees, I can see both of those in my dealings with you, Pat...;-)

Bill

[Pat OMalley]

Only if I remember to bring my ??? Mmmmm what was it again???

Oh!

Em!

Oh yeah! A stick.

[Catman]

Hi everyone!!

Just want to ask any of you who knows Jay Dobrin of BIFF Escrima what do you think about him as Instructor?

Cheers.

[Crucible]

This would be another one for Guru Omalley, can you tell us something about rapid arnis, its structure, progression, favored techniques or ranges, maybe what inspired its development? Thanks!

[LabanB]

Hi Catman,

One of my instructors (Jimi McAvoy) trained under Jay. Jay was one of the first three people to train in the FMA in the UK, under Rene Latosa (I believe Bill Newman and Brian Jones were the others).

When Jimi is asked who has been his best instructor he immediately replies "Jay"; when asked who is the best fighter hes dealt with...its "Jay"!!!

I am hosting Jay at the end of November, so if you can get to Newcastle drop me a line for more info.

Bill

[Pat OMalley]

Hi everyone!!

Just want to ask any of you who knows Jay Dobrin of BIFF Escrima what do you think about him as Instructor?

Cheers.

Jay is I would say one of the most knowledgable guy's in the UK when it comes to FMA, he started FMA in the UK first, apart from that I used to live round the corner from him and he is a nice guy.
If you get the chance to train with him send him my regards.

Best regards
Pat

[Catman]

Cheers guys...Thanks a lot for the infos.

Regards,
Catman

[david f]

Peter Lewis instructor of Worcester Eskrima Club is teaching Kali Ilustrisimo as taught by Punong Guro Yuli Romo, as well as Warriors Eskrima.

[Peter]

Thanks David.

Anyone interested in learning more about the Kali (Romo Clan) Ilustrisimo system of Punong Guro Yuli Romo can contact me on: peter@romo-ilustrisimo.co.uk or view the website at: www.romo-ilustrisimo.co.uk

For details of the long-standing Worcester Eskrima Club, visit: www.worcester-eskrima.co.uk All Warrior's Eskrima gradings are conducted by Pangulong Guro Krishna Godhania.

[YODA]

Hi Peter

Why not put the link to both your clubs in your signature and your user profile?

[Peter]

Thanks Yoda, great idea!

Let's see if my brain is up to the technology.

[Catman]

Hi everyone,

I really want to get more into Filipino Empty Hands Combat.Do you guys know any clubs in London who concentrate more in Panantukan,Pananjakman,Dumog,Kadena de Mano..etc?

Any help will be much appreciated.

Respect!

[Pat OMalley]

Hi everyone,

I really want to get more into Filipino Empty Hands Combat.Do you guys know any clubs in London who concentrate more in Panantukan,Pananjakman,Dumog,Kadena de Mano..etc?

Any help will be much appreciated.

Respect!

Nope, afraid not, but I will ask around, but if all else fails there is a guy in Dartford who specialises not only in FMA but in Kenpo Niten Ryu and his Panantukan and his Dumog skills are awsome, but then again his kenpo style does a lot of grappling, kicking and punching.
Name Nigel Herterich
5th Degree Master Arnis & Kenpo.

PM me if you need his details.

[Catman]

Hi Pat,

I did train with Nigel for a while but unfortunately the class was mixed with Soke Andy McGill's Kenpo class. I was hoping for more FMA training than Kenpo but unfortunately I found the opposite.Nigel is a very good instructor but he was missing too many classes so I ended up learning more Kenpo..(((.I trained in karate for 8 years and I had enough of it.I was hoping for a change.Bad luck though...

Anyway thanks again for the infos.

[Stuart Rider]

Paul Finn runs a regular class in Mottingham South East London.
He is certified to teach JKD/Kali under Dan Inosanto, Ralph Jones and Rick Faye.
Also certified in Doce pares under Danny Guba.

You can look him up on www.zanshinkali.co.uk

Also Ralph who is a full instrcutor under Dan Inosanto has
a class in Orpington.

I know these are not pure FMA classes but they are both very knowledgeable
and excellent instructors.

[Stuart Rider]

Also forgot What abour Bob Breen, Is his acadmeny still running
in Dartford? I'm sure he teaches the kali as seperate classes.

[YODA]

Paul and Ralph are excellent! If you can get there ...errr..... GET THERE!

[Pat OMalley]

Hi Pat,

I did train with Nigel for a while but unfortunately the class was mixed with Soke Andy McGill's Kenpo class. I was hoping for more FMA training than Kenpo but unfortunately I found the opposite.Nigel is a very good instructor but he was missing too many classes so I ended up learning more Kenpo..(((.I trained in karate for 8 years and I had enough of it.I was hoping for a change.Bad luck though...

Anyway thanks again for the infos.

I was talking to Nigel the other night and he imforms me that he will bestarting his own seperate class in September sometime apart from Andy McGill's class ( Andy the Master of pain :cry: ). This class will be 90% FMA so I would give him a bell if you have already trained with him you'll know what a great teacher he is.

And yes check out the others mentioned above, Bob Breen has a vast amount of knowledge (did'nt know his classes in Dartford were still open :confused: ). I know, I train with him long enough.

All the best

Pat

[Catman]

Hi Pat,

Good to know Nigel will start his own class...I will check it out for sure once it's official opened.I did enjoy very much training with him.

Thanks again Pat for the infos..

All the best!