Subs from North/south

[Stick]

Last night in BJJ I was able to pin the instructor (blue belt) for over 3 min. I have a judo background and in judo this is a win, I had trouble working a sub from this hold. I did end up getting a kimura, what are others subs from this hold?

[YODA]

My fave 2 are...

Arm triangle

Armbar (Juji-gatame)

Kimura as you say

[Stick]

Ude garami is the Japanese name for the kimura...I think :Alien:

[Acekicken]

U can also Get a Front Gullatine Choke
And a Body keylock< This one is hard to explain
in Words.
Move into Ushiro Kesagatame with the Left Arm
tucked under Your Left Arm Throw Your Right Leg over
Your Partners Stomach for Body Control Ley Back & Use Your R Arm
To pull up on The Elbow for more tork.

U Can also do a Dragon Sleeper : U are in North n South
With Arm & Neck Control Raise The Body Up While maintaining Control
So there Back is Elevated Rap Your Legs Around The Waist & Sit Back
With Arm neck & Body Control.

[Don Davies]

You can do a neck crank with your legs.

[Big Pete Boy]

Were you in side control or full mount?

If i'm in mount i tend to go for keylock, but if it's a stronger guy i don't seem to get many sub's. I just go for the G n' P on them.

If i'm in side, i go for arm bar, or try to move down the leg for ankle lock or knee bar.

Only been grappling for a year so i don't pull off a wide variety of sub's.

Big Pete Boy

[shootodog]

end up in a knee bar or an ankle lock.

[Tomanak]

end up in a knee bar or an ankle lock.

Knee bar or ankle lock from a NORTH SOUTH??? Hmmm... you'll have to show me how to do that one of these days (without transitioning), sir. It's pretty hard to attack a guy's legs/ankles when they are precisely on the "south" side and you are on the "north".

Personally, I'd go for an armbar, or (as you did) a kimura. The "body keylock", from what I understood from Acekicken (from Ushiro Kesagatame position) sounds a lot like a reverse hammer lock. That's nice, too.

[shootodog]

Knee bar or ankle lock from a NORTH SOUTH??? Hmmm... you'll have to show me how to do that one of these days (without transitioning), sir. It's pretty hard to attack a guy's legs/ankles when they are precisely on the "south" side and you are on the "north".

Personally, I'd go for an armbar, or (as you did) a kimura. The "body keylock", from what I understood from Acekicken (from Ushiro Kesagatame position) sounds a lot like a reverse hammer lock. That's nice, too.

oops. i forgot to add "transition, to/ then" before the phrase "end up in..." sorry for the confusion.

[johndoch]

oops. i forgot to add "transition, to/ then" before the phrase "end up in..." sorry for the confusion.

Or better still why dont you say "I dont go for subs from the North/South Position" ;)

Personally speaking I would say Kimura.

[Stick]

I've had luck with:

http://judoinfo.com/images/yokosankaku.gif

[Stick]

Sorry for the broken link.

http://judoinfo.com/techdrw.htm#chokes

[Tomanak]

oops. i forgot to add "transition, to/ then" before the phrase "end up in..." sorry for the confusion.

Ah. Move into side mount, then the opponent will instinctively do the BJJ figure-four mount block with his leg. Then you pick the ankle to crank and/or to swivel into knee bar.

[shootodog]

Ah. Move into side mount, then the opponent will instinctively do the BJJ figure-four mount block with his leg. Then you pick the ankle to crank and/or to swivel into knee bar.

:D you got it! btw, i've had the bottom triangle done to me in the n/s position. he got me while i was trying to shrimp away. i've also been armbarred from the n/s. different guy. **nuts**

[Yukimushu]

Theres the Kimura from N/S:
http://www.bjj.org/techniques/aranha/kimura/

And Head Scissor from Armbar
http://www.bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech4/