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LilBunnyRabbit
29-Nov-2002, 10:47 PM
Just curious about something, and I could be completely wrong, but I've heard from various people that most forms of kung fu use some version of the concept of circular motion. The one that we use is that each individual technique should return to its starting position through natural circular movement, but from what I've gathered many of the versions used in various types of kung fu are different. Anyone care to explain their particular version of circular motion, or if you use it?

Greyghost
02-Dec-2002, 08:05 AM
Nope....cause if we tell you ...how we gonni kill you with it.


hugs and kisses



(if your really interested check out Bagua)

TkdWarrior
03-Dec-2002, 01:08 AM
lol GG i liked yer answer...
but it's more than circling ur oppnt...
-TkdWarrior-

LilBunnyRabbit
03-Dec-2002, 08:06 AM
Circling your opponent is what I'd call angling off, I'm asking about circular motion in techniques.

YODA
03-Dec-2002, 08:09 AM
Hey Jimmy - have you looked into the "Eliptical Straight Lead" that Jun Fan / JKD people do?

LilBunnyRabbit
03-Dec-2002, 08:11 AM
:cry: You're trying to make me do research again!

Nope, no idea what it is even, but I'll have a look.

Freeform
06-Dec-2002, 02:10 PM
Everything is circular! The end has its roots in the beginning!!! I've studied to much and am going insane!!!!!!


Hhahhhahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Shou Tu
02-Dec-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by LilBunnyRabbit
Just curious about something, and I could be completely wrong, but I've heard from various people that most forms of kung fu use some version of the concept of circular motion. The one that we use is that each individual technique should return to its starting position through natural circular movement, but from what I've gathered many of the versions used in various types of kung fu are different. Anyone care to explain their particular version of circular motion, or if you use it?

Circular motion in strikes is used in progressive striking. Regardless of what strike you throw, it returns to you in small circles so the next strike follows on its heels in the same manner.

it assists in power generation from strike to strike. Using circular motion allows you to not get over extend and your strikes come much quicker to your opponent.

im getting a brain block on explaining this one, when i remember more ill post.

Salute,

Shou Shu Blue

YODA
02-Dec-2003, 07:54 PM
The original post was over a year ago - I have a feeling he may have worked it out by now.

Tosh
02-Dec-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by YODA
I have a feeling he may have worked it out by now.

......or been forced to change his name (to protect the innocent) :D :D :D

Shou Tu
03-Dec-2003, 01:46 AM
I noticed the date after i posted.

shunyadragon
04-Dec-2003, 11:01 AM
The concept of circular motion is in most of not all Arts of the Way (Martial Arts).

Circular motion should not necessarilly return to the same position, in fact it is better not to. Predicability of movement and strikes is like standing in one place. To the experience opponent your return to the same position is bad news for you.

There are two components of movement and strikes in terms of the direction of energy expended and movement: Circular and linear motion. Movements and strikes with more linear energy and movement move the object away or towards you. For example: Repelling strikes are more linear than circular. Movements and strikes that are more circular maintain the energy closer to the source of the movement. These movements and strikes are usually used to repell the opponent, but are often followed by movement and strikes. The energy of circular strikes, movements is more circular and the purpose is to control the opponent and cause injury as in throws followed by strikes and movement.

Blocks are more linear and not the best way to to oppose a strike it is best to strike a strike than to block a strike. The more circular the strike against the strike the more likely the enregy of the strike is directed away from the target. The concept of blocking a strike is generally not good technique, because it relies on using force against force which often may cause injury to the defender.

Soft on hard and hard on soft is best.

shunyadragon
04-Dec-2003, 11:09 AM
Correction:

These movements and strikes are usually (NOT) used to repell the opponent, but are often followed by movement and strikes. The energy of circular strikes, movements is more circular and the purpose is to control the opponent and cause injury as in throws followed by strikes and movement.