Question for the boxers

[Killerbee]

Hey people,

If anyone who boxes here does karate or something like that, what exactly is the difference between the punches in boxing and karate?

[Cain]

Hmm....let's see....boxing has follow-through punches but karate punches r taught differently, we have straight horizontal punches, n jkd has it's famous straight punch....hmm....the most common difference would be that karate punches r more like snappy n controlled while punches in boxing require more follow-through.

But of course that does not mean u should avoid either they both r useful, trust me on this.

|Cain|

[Cain]

Oh n welcome to the forums :D

|Cain|

[TkdWarrior]

nuthn much difference than the stance in Boxing(even closely looking it looks the same :D) boxers use jab,roundhouse n hook that's it...karate use those three but they hav more hand technique like backfist, hammerfist etc..etc...
-TkdWarrior-

[Killerbee]

Thanks alot people,

Its just that since boxing is an entire art based soley on punching the punches cant be that bad.

[TkdWarrior]

boxers r sometime much much better than karate or TKD guys :)
boxing is not that easy art as it seems :D..
anyways welcome to forums killerbee..
-TkdWarrior-

[binski20]

There is a great deal of difference between the punches of karate and boxing. To respond to cain, boxing's punches are snappy. Believe me, if you didn't while boxing, you wouldn't be successful.
I'll get more into this a little later on, have to run for now.

[TkdWarrior]

"To respond to cain, boxing's punches are snappy. "
yea that's rite...but that's is evolving in mostly arts...
when we do it(TKD) we do it same way...seen some karate dudes doing like that...
-TkdWarrior-

[johndoch]

The nature of boxing is totally different to Karate especially as a sport. Boxers tend to hit harder with their pucnches as the sport really does limit your weapons. A boxer really only has Jab, cross, hook (left or right), uppercut (left or right). All of which can be used either to the head or body. This means the boxer will experiment more specifically with punching by incorporating slight adjustments to their technique like adding a slight corkscrew just before impact to get good power.

Karate on the other hand can use the boxing techniques plus kicks, finger strikes etc. This would suggest that the karate practictioner has more techniques to cover and will be a more jack of all trades rather than a specialist.

Therefore IMHO boxers punching ability will be better although the techniques for punching in karate and boxing should be the same.

[binski20]

The punches SHOULD be the same, but aren't.
No matter what way you fry it, karate punching and boxing punching are different.
They may be similar, but are still different.
As for the karate practitioner being a jack of all trades, that may be partially true. However, I feel the boxer has a greater control over his domain of expertise. It's just the way they train.

[Cain]

Ok...Ok....Ok I was wrong, I just used to watch the fighgts and answered, don't take any notice to wat I said...

|Cain|

[goatnipples2002]

The punching is slightly different because of body positioning and hand placement. Boxers don't need to protect there legs. Unless fighting in the streets, in that case you need to practice Kali's leg destructions. Don't forget boxing is boxing. Boxing is a SPORT. If you are going to break down arts into categories start by seperating them by sport arts and non-sport arts.

[Cougar_v203]

yea wha nipps said ;)
cain don't worry we won't ;)
heres a hint, watch a boxing match and then watch a MA match and you'll see the difference in how they punch, I know it sounds odd and very stupid but thats how I learned.

[Cain]

nah it's not stupid, all I myself hv seen are uppercuts n hooks which are followthrus and those I hv seen on TV, but since I train in karate, budokan n a mix of god knows wat other arts ;) I can say the karate punches are more snappy that's where I got my info from, I am not a very knowledgeble person trust me on this :D

|Cain|

[YODA]

watch a boxing match and then watch a MA match

Boxing IS a martial art.

[Bon]

Originally posted by Killerbee
Hey people,

If anyone who boxes here does karate or something like that, what exactly is the difference between the punches in boxing and karate?

Boxing is very efficient, the most superior art for training your hands IMO.. They use a horiztonal fist and there's very little, if any recoil in the punches, the power comes from the movement in the body - twisting your hips, shoulders, etc. Boxers train like they fight, with their hands up.

Karate uses a horiztonl fist and karatekas are supposed to look like a boxer when they fight (I wouldn't know one if I've seen one), but for the most part of what I've seen their lead hand is down near their chest, their right hand on/near their hip and they do really big recoils for their punches (distance their arm has to be brought back is minimised by placing their hand on/near their hip). I think it stems from always placing their hand on their hip after doing a punch in training, but it's supposed to teach them awareness. :rolleyes:

[si200od]

I have been to many Karate clubs and a couple of boxing clubs and have to say that a boxers punches are better because they train the way thay intend to fight, everything is scientific. SOME karate schools do a lot of training on things that they will never use. Also a lot of karate clubs never practice full contact sparing, which is needed to learn how to deliver a good hard punch.

[si200od]

The punch has to be snappy in order to recover if the punch misses. Boxing teaches to retract the punch quicker than you throw it out (if you can) in order to regain the on gard stance.

[FISH]

Originally posted by si200od
The punch has to be snappy in order to recover if the punch misses. Boxing teaches to retract the punch quicker than you throw it out (if you can) in order to regain the on gard stance.

Exactly :D If you don't snap back quickly and keep your guard up you will get countered in a heartbeat:cool:Even then you get tagged and thats no fun.Kept me from ever going into competetive boxing thx anyways using my head for things other than a punching bag suits me ok. Watching alot of pro fights now makes me cringe so many fundamentals just aren't there anymore.Lots of people think they can keep their guard low like Ali.Look at Ali today if he would have kept his guard up like he did in the early fights he probably wouldn't be the way he is and thats a sad fact.Boxing is more about being flashy and a showboat now if you want the big money alot of the time:mad: Tyson took it back to old school for awhile there combining great boxing and slugging skills.The he went to prison and gained like 30lbs. of muscle "can you say steroids" and lost his punching speed and mobility/agilty:p Oh well middleweights and bellow are still great to watch usually.

[shadow joe]

a punch IS a punch - watch roy jones, he's got some follow through, speed, and snappy whip like action!


that IS how a punch should be thrown regardless of style...


it's the chen form baby,
Tekshow

[Pro Killer]

a punch IS a punch - watch roy jones, he's got some follow through, speed, and snappy whip like action!


that IS how a punch should be thrown regardless of style...


it's the chen form baby,
Tekshow

You couldnt be more wrong If you tried!

[Freeform]

Care to elaborate on that Pro Killer?

Col

[C-Fugazi]

Boxers throw punches from what we call the 'On Guard' position.
In Karate the punch is thrown from the hip.I persoanlly belive the boxers jab is faster and more accurate and it can be thrown in doubles or trebles.

I have boxed for the best part of my life and I have also trained in Wado-Ryu Karate.
I found that Karate has a lot more power in a single punch which if executed correctly can easily fell an opponent where a boxers jab is a punch that will 'open a door' to a combination.
Personally I think that throwing a punch from the hip has two faults.

(1) Its easy to read since it is travelling from the side of the body upwards so therefore you can anticipate when its comming and move accordingly.
(2) You have no 'natural' guard since the fist is positioned on the hip.

In Boxing we teach to punch straight from the guard positon.The punch moves from the side of the head (guard position) to the target and then back in the guard position.This is a straight line with no angle and as we know the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.

Now I agree a kick is harder than a punch if done correctly but then again as soon as you kick your off balance because for a brief moment of time you are standing on one leg.
As we know boxers have a set stance which enable him to (1) Stay balanced (2) Punch with power,speed and accuracy and (3) it enables him to move into defence or offence very quickly.Kicking is good all the same and any boxer will tell you how hard it is to fight someone with a longer reach which exactly what happens when someone is kicking.The reach is far superior to that of someone who is only using his fists to that of someone who is primarily kicking.
Kicks can be anticipated and a boxer is well trained in moving in and out of a 'fighting zone'.The zone for those of you who are unfamiliar is where two boxers can actually exchange punches so if you move out of the zone you cannot be hit.If your kick misses your off balance which can make it even easier to knock you down.Also if the boxer evades your kick the distance you were traying to maintain has been breached and most fighters are well trained for infighting techniques.
Hooks,Uppercuts,U-dips are all part of a boxers arsenal and it would take a good person to be able to avoid these without taking at least one big punch,a punch that has the potential to seriously hurt you.

I know a lot of excellent Karate instructors and likewise with boxing so I hope I havent come across as too biased.I would be interested to hear anyones thoughts,especially anyone who trains karate,kickboxing or Tae-kwon-do.