View Full Version : has anybody ever used it forreal
bigd
24-Apr-2004, 11:44 PM
ive used it twice(story)i was at work me and this guy was arguing he came up and started choking me so i blocked his choke and i put a half cross choke on him and he fell down and puked all over (story2) this guy came in my house starting trouble i hit him in his vegas nerve or his stomach 9 point i dont knowa there very close but he got knocked out for 30 minutes by the way these are Dim-Mak points and when he woke up he couldent stand for 30 minutes when could acually stand he went to jail
i just want to know everybody esles real life selfdefense stories if they ever used martial arts
aikiwolfie
25-Apr-2004, 03:02 AM
I use my Aikido in daily life all the time. At least I try to. Why does it always have to be about self defence? Doesn't martial arts training have other benefits? I certainly think it does. And that's not limited to Aikido eithers.
You would think someone who claims to be a master would have learned to see a bigger picture than just violence and fighting and knocking a guy out for half an hour. Just a thought.
bigd
25-Apr-2004, 03:31 AM
I use my Aikido in daily life all the time. At least I try to. Why does it always have to be about self defence? Doesn't martial arts training have other benefits? I certainly think it does. And that's not limited to Aikido eithers.
You would think someone who claims to be a master would have learned to see a bigger picture than just violence and fighting and knocking a guy out for half an hour. Just a thought.youre right i should use more of the other side im working on it i wasnt trying to thow you off with violence i was just trying to see if anybody actually had to defend themselves
thats one of my probems on the martial arts im more physical than anything thanks for the reply
live safe
Freeform
26-Apr-2004, 11:12 AM
Used what for real?
aikiMac
26-Apr-2004, 04:07 PM
I use my Aikido in daily life all the time. At least I try to. Why does it always have to be about self defence? Doesn't martial arts training have other benefits? I certainly think it does.
Same here.
It ain't about the fighting.
buddah_belly
26-Apr-2004, 05:01 PM
Why does it always have to be about self defence?
When I first started martial arts, I had an incorrect definition of "self defense."
Now I've come to understand, that self defense, is defense against my self...that is to say...I'm my own worst enemy.
Masakatsu Agatsu-True victory is victory over one's self.
Budd
26-Apr-2004, 07:42 PM
Yes.
aikinoob
26-Apr-2004, 07:44 PM
i hate this thread
Cyrax
26-Apr-2004, 07:58 PM
used ma in real life? sure all the time....yesterday i was jumping on the trampoline and as i did a role someone jumped and bounced me off the trampoline like 10 feet in the air....when i hit the ground i rolled instead of putting my hands out in front of me....i could of broke a wrist or something....it was cool
bigd
26-Apr-2004, 08:01 PM
i hate this threadthen why are yo;u on it
Budd
26-Apr-2004, 09:33 PM
Hi Bigd,
Maybe you didn't see it in the other thread, but I was going to be out your way in July/August and was hoping to get to witness your sokery in all those nifty martial arts for myself. You can send me a PM with your contact info if you want and then after we meet up I'll make sure to share my thoughts with the board at large here :)
aikinoob
27-Apr-2004, 02:58 PM
then why are yo;u on it
just thought you should be aware of my opinion.
are you sure you knocked someone completely unconscious for 30 min and also effectively incapacitated them for 30 mins subsequent to their miraculous re-awakening?
i think you are funny, tell me another one...
bigd
28-Apr-2004, 01:21 AM
just thought you should be aware of my opinion.
are you sure you knocked someone completely unconscious for 30 min and also effectively incapacitated them for 30 mins subsequent to their miraculous re-awakening?
i think you are funny, tell me another one...ok heres another one
(one day, i was fighting this guy and i flew FIRE out of my hands,and hit him with it i dont know how i did it it happen, the cops were coming and i flew up a 40ft wall, and got away. you believe that
Leksikon
28-Apr-2004, 05:19 AM
ok heres another one
(one day, i was fighting this guy and i flew FIRE out of my hands,and hit him with it i dont know how i did it it happen, the cops were coming and i flew up a 40ft wall, and got away. you believe that
I've done that twice just today and I was only out for an hour... come on then, impress us :p
Samurai_Spice
28-Apr-2004, 06:35 AM
Used it a few times for real.. Used it sparring other MA a lot.
master35
28-Apr-2004, 08:15 AM
ok heres another one
(one day, i was fighting this guy and i flew FIRE out of my hands,and hit him with it i dont know how i did it it happen, the cops were coming and i flew up a 40ft wall, and got away. you believe that
whehheheh!!! :D
im a cop and to answer your question yes i've used aikido several times and damn it works and save my life, since i needed it on my line of work.
my question is what's your purpose in studying martial arts? :)
aikiwolfie
28-Apr-2004, 08:37 AM
I got bored with the fire out tha hands and running up walls stuff. It was all just too easy. I prefer the wolverine blades in the forearm thing. I get to fight a nekid blue chick. :)
Freeform
28-Apr-2004, 10:16 AM
i flew FIRE out of my hands,and hit him with it i dont know how i did it it happen, the cops were coming and i flew up a 40ft wall, and got away. you believe that
I tried this once but it came out my butt instead! :D
aikinoob
28-Apr-2004, 01:26 PM
ah, been eating thai food?
Budd
28-Apr-2004, 01:52 PM
Hi Bigd,
I'm still waiting on that contact info for when I come to Ohio in July/August. I'm especially anxious to see that fire trick. Sounds awesome!
fogwall
28-Apr-2004, 03:59 PM
Bigd, if it's ok with you and if you do send your contact info to Budd, can he video tape you doing those tricks/moves?
I think seen a 23(?) year old soke practicing and showing off his custom made MA would inspire the hell out of me.
bigd
28-Apr-2004, 06:03 PM
whehheheh!!! :D
im a cop and to answer your question yes i've used aikido several times and damn it works and save my life, since i needed it on my line of work.
my question is what's your purpose in studying martial arts? :)First of all thanks for a decent answer thats all i was asking , anyway my purpose in studying martial arts,is i love art,i dont like to hurt people, but i love the culture it comes from,ilove the art of fighting, ive always wanted to do it,actually if wasnt for martial arts i would of been in trouble along time ago but since i know what i know,i just overlook people,my purpose is it's my life.
Budd
28-Apr-2004, 06:09 PM
That's commendable. Contact info, please. Unless your invitation is no longer valid?
bigd
28-Apr-2004, 06:11 PM
Hi Bigd,
I'm still waiting on that contact info for when I come to Ohio in July/August. I'm especially anxious to see that fire trick. Sounds awesome!your coming to OHIO huh. coolwhat exactly are you looking for,imean im not going to have a big school with lots of students, that closed down 2years ago all your going to see is me and i have my style here written in ink in this tab and when you get hereill will show you things if you like /i dont mean that in a cocky way.im serious i think this will be cool as hell.but your not going to go into a room and find all kinds af weapons certificates,all glorius im just an ordinary guy really just trying to get started on my style with someone.i really never practice my partner is pu--- whipped so i havent practice in i say about a year. but i can show yo;u my style.
Budd
28-Apr-2004, 06:16 PM
Hi Bigd,
I expect to make it out there in July or August and will be looking to train while I'm in the area. You've made some pretty big claims so I'm also interested in verifying some of the things you've said. At any rate, I'd like to expect some friendly striking and grappling sparring -- nothing too intense, but we can either do strictly standup, sub wrestling, etc. I'll leave that part up to you. I'm game for any of it. Just pm me your contact info and once I know more specifically when I'll be in the area, I'll make sure to look you up.
Gravity
18-May-2004, 03:28 AM
Hello Bigd...
Are you sure about those vegas nerves?
Its actually called VAGUS NERVES. If you hit that, it really takes the breath away from the person - literally. Those nerves have a direct contact on the diaphragm and is wired through the neck and goes straight to your limbic system (that is why your diaphragm is under involuntary control). Disrupting these nerves can literally knock a person out or even kill him.
About stomach point no. 9, isn't that about 1 to 1.5 inches to the right of the Adam's apple? Hitting that might kill a person as it can stop his heart or cause his blood pressure to hit the roof!
A little advice: Don't mess around with Dim Mak. Sure you can combine Dim Mak strike techniques with Aikido Atemi. But if you kill a person, you are certainly liable for his death - self defense or not.
MuayKiDo
18-May-2004, 01:46 PM
When I first started martial arts, I had an incorrect definition of "self defense."
Now I've come to understand, that self defense, is defense against my self...that is to say...I'm my own worst enemy.
Masakatsu Agatsu-True victory is victory over one's self.
Now THAT'S true wisdom! I have had the same development, buddah_belly. MA showed me that defence begins with looking at your own personality.
aikiscotsman
18-May-2004, 02:28 PM
Both my friend and i have both restrained people from attacking us with kata and morotodori (2 hands grabbing 1 arm/ restrain the shoulder) to stop people from attacking. I had someone i new giving me a hrad time about MA and the weather it would work for real s*$t. Anyway he kept asking to see tuff and getting a bit pushy so i just grabbed morotodori and he eventually said he had never been grabbed like that, so i asked him to do punch or kick and he was unable too do anything bencause i had his center.
Now i am alot more glad to prove somthing to some one without inflicking pain its aslo a lot more embarrasing for someone to be stopped with out being able to do anything about it or being able to explain what is happening,Grabbs are great.
Just like Osensei said the attacks should be as affective as the techs
bigd
19-May-2004, 07:21 AM
Hello Bigd...
Are you sure about those vegas nerves?
Its actually called VAGUS NERVES. If you hit that, it really takes the breath away from the person - literally. Those nerves have a direct contact on the diaphragm and is wired through the neck and goes straight to your limbic system (that is why your diaphragm is under involuntary control). Disrupting these nerves can literally knock a person out or even kill him.
About stomach point no. 9, isn't that about 1 to 1.5 inches to the right of the Adam's apple? Hitting that might kill a person as it can stop his heart or cause his blood pressure to hit the roof!
A little advice: Don't mess around with Dim Mak. Sure you can combine Dim Mak strike techniques with Aikido Atemi. But if you kill a person, you are certainly liable for his death - self defense or not.it's good you changed that,i was about to say that there is no stomach pressure point by the solar plex,the closet one would be stomach 19.thestomach 9,basically its the pulse in the neck,you can get it by striking and squeezing.
domidude
21-May-2004, 10:56 AM
i started aikido 6 month ago, for no other reason but the dojo being close and the exercise being just good for my age and weight...
also about 8 month ago i was attacked but did not think to go and start learning self defense as a result of the attack because i could have not done anything anyway to prevent a deep cut to my face with a glass... so, the way it happened: i was talking to a girl at a small quiet party, suddenly a jelaous ex boyfriend came up to me from the side (just slighly in my view) and smashed his glass in my face. i had tp throw all my clothes and even my shoes out because i could not wash the blood out.. so what did i do? i told the guy that it was crasy, to stop acting like a fool and spoiling the party, to call fo ambulance, and that no i won't get in a fight just because i respect the hostess, and her home, and no i will not call the police, i am happy it is over and hope that he realized how stupid he was, than i went to hospital... he wanted me to punch him telling me because he feels so bad about what he had done... i said he was stupid again and that i will not punch him
when i told the story about the big scar on my face to my aikido instructor he said what i did and how i behaved was real aikido before i even started going to aikido class...
...and the girls like my face now better than before....
"whatever you do: do it with love" (whosaidthat?)
d33pthought
17-Jun-2004, 10:50 PM
That's friggen inspiring, dude. I doubt a lot of people would have been able to control themselves in a situation like that.
Me personally, I hope I never, ever have to use anything I learn in martial arts because I really am afraid of what I can do to a person if the technique's right. I mean, I've only been in tae kwon do for 2 months, and already I've been taught how to maim, and possibly kill a person multiple ways. That's not something I ever want to make use of.
Now that I think of it, though, there was this one time I used a martial-artsy-type move...I don't remember how I did it, but somehow, I managed to throw this guy backwards about 5 feet or so. Didn't hurt him, aside from the shock of falling on middle-school issue tile flooring, but I learned my lesson for it while on suspension...
soul mind fist
20-Jun-2004, 11:12 AM
holy crap man it may be the art of peace but he glassed you in the face! I can understand not reacting due to shock or whatever but not pacifism! Thats some fully psychotic intent he had, noone should have to put up with that ****.
soul mind fist
20-Jun-2004, 11:22 AM
don't get me wrong, once he was apologetic and the threat was over there was no point causing further violence but in the interim ....
GhostRider
27-Jun-2004, 07:56 AM
I use my Aikido in daily life all the time. At least I try to. Why does it always have to be about self defence? Doesn't martial arts training have other benefits? I certainly think it does. And that's not limited to Aikido eithers.
You would think someone who claims to be a master would have learned to see a bigger picture than just violence and fighting and knocking a guy out for half an hour. Just a thought.
Yes, but then again, he did say he only used it a couple of times. It is theoretically possible to study a peaceful art and still have to use it for violent ends. And to use it for violent ends in self defence is in no way a fault of the attackee since no-one can truly control all dangerous situations completely, violence is something you should be prepared to stand up to.
However, that's not to say what you stated does not have merit, I knew of some folks who only really considered themselves true martial artists once they had been tested a handful of times, usually by means of initiating a confrontation themselves. Not something I agreed with but that was their Karma to deal with, not mine. So it cuts both ways I guess. Just my take on it.
alexxlea
27-Jun-2004, 08:08 AM
Using my intense Muay Thai training...
One time I had to pee realllllly bad.
So I used my ab training to hold it in for 5 hours.
True story.
aikiwolfie
29-Jun-2004, 02:57 PM
Ghostrider I think you missed the point of my post. I don't understand why someone who claims to be a master and founder of his own style would have such a narrow focus on martial arts.
I totaly agree that sometimes you have no choice but to stand your ground. However I thought it was a strange question for a master to come into a forum and ask.
I can't realy be bothered going through the thread to check, but if my memory is corrent it turned out the guy claiming to be a master and founder of his own style, who started this thread isn't practicing any more, has no students and has never taught his style to anybody.
I was being just a tad sarcastic.
Ad McG
29-Jun-2004, 03:15 PM
I really want to see the outcome of bigd and budds little day out. This guy has been trolling from day 1. He says he has his own style which is a combo of a zillion different ones, and he knows all this and that, but when it comes down to someone meeting him, it turns out he hasn't trained for a year!
Awaiting the outcome eagerly, if it happens.
GhostRider
30-Jun-2004, 01:16 AM
My apologies for missinterpretting you Aikiwolfie :o And this guy still isn't practicing his own style he created? Damn, why go through all the trouble if you don't believe in it yourself? :rolleyes:
bcullen
30-Jun-2004, 03:52 AM
Using my intense Muay Thai training...
One time I had to pee realllllly bad.
So I used my ab training to hold it in for 5 hours.
True story.
Using my training (toilet) I find the first available bathroom (or a bus stop with a bench) and I don't have to hold it at all. :eek: :D :p
Bruce Lee was misquoted he said "Pee water, my friend. Pee water" (Obviously, he just had a Canadian beer :p )
GhostRider
01-Jul-2004, 01:16 AM
Canadian Beer...pee water??? Uh-uh my friend. All you have to do is drink some and you'll know... ;) But before you do that test, take the normal amount of (not light beer either) American beer you can drink in a regular sitting, then divide that by 2 or three, subtract for real beer taste, forget about carbs and commence-a-drinking... :p
Mind you, if you cannot get some great, crisp, and refreshingly smooth Canadian beer for this, there is hope for you yet in that you can use Shiner Bock to approximate real Canadian beer as it seems that in this one instant, American beer is good...lol! :D ;) :p :rolleyes: ;)
aikiMac
02-Jul-2004, 06:58 AM
A Texan is promoting Canadian beer?!?!?!
Now I've seen everything.
bcullen
02-Jul-2004, 09:16 PM
A Texan is promoting Canadian beer?!?!?!
Now I've seen everything.
LOL! I thought drinking imported beer was a hanging offence in Texas? :rolleyes:
I have Canadian relatives, so I can't resist an oppurtunity to give 'em a hard time, eh. :p
GhostRider
03-Jul-2004, 02:00 AM
I'm actually a Canadian from Saskatchewan. But as far as the beer goes, I don't hate American beer, I just despise the mass-produced stuff. The micro-brewery beer and the other smaller brewery style beer like they got in here in Texas, of note... Shiner absolutely kicks butt! And as a former "moderately-heavy Canadian beer drinker" I think I know a thing or two about quality beer and what makes a good brew... :D
kevamania
05-Jul-2004, 01:59 AM
Respect for Domidude! ! !
Man that takes some serious courage and control ,Im not exactly Mr.Agrressive r anything,I avoid conflict always but it would be fight or flight for me in a situation like that.
Your bravery and exhibition of true martial arts is an inspiration.
How has your Aikido been going since?
aikinoob
07-Jul-2004, 07:20 PM
Me personally, I hope I never, ever have to use anything I learn in martial arts because I really am afraid of what I can do to a person if the technique's right. I mean, I've only been in tae kwon do for 2 months, and already I've been taught how to maim, and possibly kill a person multiple ways. That's not something I ever want to make use of.
somehow i doubt that's gonna be a problem for you
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