Pink Floyd

[jroe52]

do you think hundreds of years from now, people will still listen to their poetic philosophy?

Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb
Mother do you think they'll like the song
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls
Ooooh aah, Mother should I build a wall
Mother should I run for president
Mother should I trust the government
Mother will they put me in the firing line
Ooooh aah, is it it just a waste of time *
Hush now baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all of your
Nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here
Under her wing
she won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall

Mother do think she's good enough for me
Mother do think she's dangerous to me
Mother will she tear your little boy apart
Oooh aah, mother will she break my heart
Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girl friends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up till you come in
Mama will always find out where
You've been
Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
You'll always be a baby to me
Mother, did it need to be so high.

[47Ronin]

You aren't supposed to drink the bong water :D :D

[jroe52]

rofl hahahaa i'm not high at the moment lol.

studying at work listening to the wall. i use to hate this album thinking it was to hard rather then poetic. last week i saw the movie, now i understand the album when i listen to it from front to back. its like 1 giant story or poam.

watching the movie though high, has to be one of the saddest things of my life. the song "when the tigers broke free" is depressing in the movie.

[47Ronin]

What movie is this?

[jroe52]

the wall. it is based off the album. the whole movie is synced up to the lyrics of the album. like the actors say the words or act them out ect. there is some added lines to the movie, but most of it follows the theme of the movie.

the first part is probably a reflection of rodger water's youth, it is sad because it tells the story of his childhood after loosing his father in WW2. i think from there it pans out about how our education system sucks, what can happen if you have to much drugs, and the pressures of stardom, life, and love.

[Hugh]

Dark Side of the moon's better I reckon. You want poetry? Post up the lyrics from "Time".

[semphoon]

Dark Side of the moon's better I reckon. You want poetry? Post up the lyrics from "Time".

Thats right.

I actually think the Barrett stuff is more poetic (in a childish and fun way). The images that he came up with are brilliant.

[Hugh]

Roger Waters was the vocalist on Dark Side - You're thinking of their earlier stuff I think. I didn't like the Wall much, just came over as being way too self-indulgent.

[Alex_JHH]

Haven't heard much of their stuff apart from echoes. Shine on you crazy diamond is a masterpiece.

[semphoon]

Roger Waters was the vocalist on Dark Side - You're thinking of their earlier stuff I think. I didn't like the Wall much, just came over as being way too self-indulgent.

Yeah, thats what Im saying...I like lyrics on "piper at the gates of dawn" (very childish) more than the stuff of Waters (very deep, Political (Animals) or very very personal (The Wall))

The Wall is heavily based on the life of Roger Waters, so much so that when he was writing it, he wanted to "hire" the other members of Pink Floyd (Gilmore, Mason, Wright) as session musicians for the Wall, rather than giving the album the "Pink Floyd" name.

If Waters had his way, The Wall would have been known as a "Roger Waters solo album" rather then "Pink Floyd"

If any of this sounds wrong....it isn't. If there is one thing I know a lot about its Pink Floyd (well...up until The Wall.......everything after The Wall was not really Pink Floyd cos Waters was no longer in the band and he had been the main creative force.......etc)

p.s. Don't mean to sound "arsey"

[Hugh]

I quite agree with you. I think that The Wall became the point after which it became clear that there were problems within pink floyd. I'm not exactly a buff on the band but that is what I've heard.

By the way Semphoon - how the ol' list compiling going? ;)

[semphoon]

By the way Semphoon - how the ol' list compiling going? ;)

:D ;)

[Ghost Frog]

Wish You Were Here is compulsory listening here on friday afternoons...


So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

And did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war
for a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl
year after year
Running over the same old ground
What have we found?
The same old fears
Wish you were here

[Hugh]

Anyone see the Australian Pink Floyd show that toured Britain a before christmas? They were awesome. They sounded so much like Floyd at times I couldn't believe it.

[Mordred]

I like both Waters and Gilmour on vocals. Wish you were here is excellent, so is the album "Final cut" as well as "Momentary lapse of reason" & "Animals"

[semphoon]

Anyone see the Australian Pink Floyd show that toured Britain a before christmas? They were awesome. They sounded so much like Floyd at times I couldn't believe it.

*Holds hand up.

This must be appearing that I am very sad.

Yeah, the play a wide variety of stuff which they have to do; everyine in the audience has different favourite Pink Floyd periods.

They started with "In the flesh?" and it was brilliant, the lights flashed when the first beat was hit....brilliant. (if you know the song then you can imagine)

[jroe52]

by no means is the wall my favorite, my point of the post was umm wait what was it again? oh yeah, that they made philosophy and will it be used hundreds of years from now? i say yes:) the song mother to me helps look at critisisms of our gov't. what do we sacrafice for sapposed security. did we create our security problems or are we victims of our governments actions?

i hate imperialism and i think pink floyd does too.

anyways, my fav album i think for all time will always be dark side of the moon. i love meddle and animals and wish you were here equally after that, there are parts on those albums that i love more then dark side, but the poetry from dsom is intense. the thing about dsom is that each song is meaningful and explains a little about life or is it warning us about how we spend our life?

either way, pink floyd is probably the most amazing thing to me lately other then kung fu. the thing i love is it fits your mood, almost all their albums you can rock to, but some of them you can sleep, get mad, get happy, space out too. dark side is probably the best well rounded album for any mood.

shew:)

[Hugh]

Yeah, sorry, to answer your question- i think it's certainly possible that pink floyd, along with all the other musicians who are good enough to survive the test of time will continue to inluence people in the future. I don't think there will be university courses in analysing Floyd lyrics or anything - but it is reasonable to imagine that their music will remain influential to future generations.

[semphoon]

Yeah, sorry, to answer your question- i think it's certainly possible that pink floyd, along with all the other musicians who are good enough to survive the test of time will continue to inluence people in the future. I don't think there will be university courses in analysing Floyd lyrics or anything - but it is reasonable to imagine that their music will remain influential to future generations.

If you look at the album Animals it is a musical version of the classic book by George Orwell "Animal Farm" in which he looks at the state of communist Russia - "all animals are equally, but some are more equal than other" ;)

Thought that was a brilliant idea- you have the pigs (the rulers), the dogs (the enforcement) and the sheep (the general public, controlled by the dogs and constantly fooled by the pigs).

Animals is a brilliant concept album. As is DSOM - its about life, death and everything in between. All great works of art that I'm sure will endure.

[jroe52]

but if they do make a course, i bet it would be fun to take:) lol, i can imagine what us stoners would accomplish there lol.

shew okay anyways...

if anyone is bored on 3rd shift like i get, go to www.pinkfloyd.com click the echoes link and make sure you do "hi bandwith" (the outer square when you chose bandwith). you can listen to full versions to every song on the album! plus some other neat stuff.

[Hugh]

If you look at the album Animals it is a musical version of the classic book by George Orwell "Animal Farm" in which he looks at the state of communist Russia - "all animals are equally, but some are more equal than other" ;)

Thought that was a brilliant idea- you have the pigs (the rulers), the dogs (the enforcement) and the sheep (the general public, controlled by the dogs and constantly fooled by the pigs).

Animals is a brilliant concept album. As is DSOM - its about life, death and everything in between. All great works of art that I'm sure will endure.

My god - I never realised that :) I've read Animal Farm a couple of times but never twigged. hmmm...you learn something new every day

[semphoon]

My god - I never realised that :) I've read Animal Farm a couple of times but never twigged. hmmm...you learn something new every day

You will listen to the lyrics and that album in a whole new way now.

Read the lyrics on the web and it pretty much tells you about the characters (I mean, personality of the characters) in animal farm.

[Ghost Frog]

There was a display on at the Tate gallery in Liverpool a couple of years ago that showed how Darkside of the moon was an alternative soudntrack to the Wizard of Oz. :)

[Hugh]

There was a display on at the Tate gallery in Liverpool a couple of years ago that showed how Darkside of the moon was an alternative soudntrack to the Wizard of Oz. :)

*ultimate stoner response* Have you actually done that? whooooah! dude! it, like, sooo synchs up. killer :)

[jroe52]

meh, only part i thought it synced up to was the tornado scene, other then that its just your stoned hehe. a better sync up is echoes and 2001 space oddysy, read up on it at www.pinkfloydonline.com

animals is amazing. the first time i heard it all together was this summer. i fell in love falling asleep to it. then one day i realized, hmm this is really like the people in our world. the dogs, sheep, and pigs represent our soceity.

then a few weeks ago i read something about how it was based on the book and i was like "oh snap" hehe. it compares capitalism (pigs) and communism (dogs) and sheep (the common people) with a fair view. (i might of got the pigs/dogs part mixxed up).

[Taff]

This thread requires a resurrection. :)



Has anyone ever listened to Symphonic Pink Floyd? It's orchestral versions of the following:

Time
Brain Damage
Another Brick in the Wall part 2
Money
Nobody Home
Comfortably Numb
Breathe
Great Gig in the Sky
Us and Them


I personally think it's very very good indeed. Some do not like it, because they basically substitute vocals for violins in many of the songs, and it can get a tad screechy, but overall I find it compulsive listening. My favourites at the moment are Us and Them, Great Gig and Breathe.

[PlumDragon]

I used to own the Symphonic Pink Floyd album. Being a hard-core pink floyd fan, I didnt like it so much. While its good listening, the symphonic stuff loses most of the essence that waters/gilmour/wright put into the music. Its no longer pink floyd, its no longer utterly engulfing and deserving of my undivided attention at any moment it is within earshot; it is not...*special*...It becomes "just a song".

My favorite album is probably "Animals". Abosolutely brilliant in every conceivable way. If you are uninitiated to this album, I recommend it highly. Its just breathtaking. A good example is this verse:

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

Performed in the middle of "Dogs". The combination of poetic linguistics, truly amazing guitar, and rhythm make this stuff very powerful IMO...Nothing like it in the world.

[Cuchulain82]

Plum Dragon, you took the words right off my keyboard. I am a pretty big Floyd fan and Animals is my fav. I think it is a great album, and it, imho, the most philosophical of all their albums (yes, more than Darkside and the Wall).

[Taff]

I used to own the Symphonic Pink Floyd album. Being a hard-core pink floyd fan, I didnt like it so much. While its good listening, the symphonic stuff loses most of the essence that waters/gilmour/wright put into the music. Its no longer pink floyd, its no longer utterly engulfing and deserving of my undivided attention at any moment it is within earshot; it is not...*special*...It becomes "just a song".

My favorite album is probably "Animals". Abosolutely brilliant in every conceivable way. If you are uninitiated to this album, I recommend it highly. Its just breathtaking. A good example is this verse:

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

Performed in the middle of "Dogs". The combination of poetic linguistics, truly amazing guitar, and rhythm make this stuff very powerful IMO...Nothing like it in the world.

It's not meant to be Pink Floyd.
I don't see how you can't find it engulfing. It has somewhat less "texture" than the originals, but there is enough in there to hold your attention. I've been listening to it non stop, and I love DSOtM, yet this has something extra to it. Great Gig in the Sky is particularly good on there. I hear things in these versions that I do not hear in the originals.

[DangerMouse]

Never new this thread existed, otherwise I'd have jumped on it much sooner.

I've always been a big fan of Pink Floyd, but unlike most people on here I prefer their later stuff - I've always respected Dave Gilmour's conribution to the band. Comfortably Numb has to be one of the greatest tracks ever written :D

I have been meaning to listen to the philharmonic stuff, but always bought another CD I've wanted more when I get to the shop.

Anyway, all plans for this evening now rejected, it's Floyd time!

[PlumDragon]

It's not meant to be Pink Floyd.
I don't see how you can't find it engulfing. It has somewhat less "texture" than the originals, but there is enough in there to hold your attention. I've been listening to it non stop, and I love DSOtM, yet this has something extra to it. Great Gig in the Sky is particularly good on there. I hear things in these versions that I do not hear in the originals.
Well, while I know that they are not trying to make something that *is* Pink Floyd...It *is* a Pink Floyd remake.

Im not saying its bad music; its good. In fact, I did say it was good listening in my previous post =)
Its just that Im a Pink Floyd bigot. When I listen to Pink Floyd, theres something about they way they play, the way they pluck that guitar, their rhythm and the depth that a single note can have when Gilmour hits it like I think nobody else can. I am just in awe listening to Gilmour, I enjoy listening to him play more than any other band in the world, including the Orchestra (which I do enjoy very very much).

[DangerMouse]

Maybe this thread should be split and put in the music forum - not much philosophy going onhere anymore.

Anyway, are you saying you enjoy Dave Gilmour's solo stuff PlumDragon? I have both (correct me if there are more than two) of his solo albums, and think they're great. I've also got a video of a TV show of Gilmour live - amazing. Roger Waters may have been great for the band while it lasted, but IMHO he was also the breaking of the band.

Sid Barrett - I wasn't too keen on alot of his stuff, but when it was good it was good. .... I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like..... :)

[jonmonk]

Woohoo, a Pink Floyd thread. Has anybody else gone out and bought Nick Mason's biography of the band 'Inside Out'? I went to the book signing in Bournemouth and met him. I'm very pleased with myself :D

[PlumDragon]

Anyway, are you saying you enjoy Dave Gilmour's solo stuff PlumDragon? I have both (correct me if there are more than two) of his solo albums, and think they're great. I've also got a video of a TV show of Gilmour live - amazing. Roger Waters may have been great for the band while it lasted, but IMHO he was also the breaking of the band.

Sid Barrett - I wasn't too keen on alot of his stuff, but when it was good it was good. .... I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like..... :)
I love Gilmours solo stuff. I got a concert on DVD from a friend a few weeks back of him playing solo--absolutely amazing stuff. In the beginning he took Crazy Diamond and modified it slightly...just amazing. But its not just Gilmours solo stuff--As I had mentioned my favorite album is probably Animals. For those that own the boxed set (which is quite a rare gem I might add...yes, I have one =) ), there is an interesting story behind the picture on the front of Animals.

I dont enjoy the really old school stuff as much. Barrett had an interesting individual spice (some call it craziness) that he added to the songs, and I like it. But not as much as their middle-of-the-road music.

[Taiji Butterfly]

Floyd rule :cool:

[Taff]

Well, while I know that they are not trying to make something that *is* Pink Floyd...It *is* a Pink Floyd remake.

Im not saying its bad music; its good. In fact, I did say it was good listening in my previous post =)
Its just that Im a Pink Floyd bigot. When I listen to Pink Floyd, theres something about they way they play, the way they pluck that guitar, their rhythm and the depth that a single note can have when Gilmour hits it like I think nobody else can. I am just in awe listening to Gilmour, I enjoy listening to him play more than any other band in the world, including the Orchestra (which I do enjoy very very much).

OK what you're saying is very hard to put into words. I can listen to Us And Them for hours on loop because it's simply mesmeric, as an example. Even a relatively "basic" song like Wish You Were Here has something else to it, because it's Pink Floyd. And it's one of those things that you can't explain to people, and some people will never hear it.
I alway think that PF have hooks all through their songs, and they vary in subtlety. No other band I've heard has pulled this off, though I've always found the Pixies catch my attention, but in a different way.

I tend to find the orchestral versions less "distracting". If I'm revising, I can't listen to dark side, because I get swept away! However, I *can* listen to the orchestral version of time without starting to sing away "ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.....", I don't get sucked in, but I also hear something different there.

These things are too hard to talk about, it's all about experience with the floyd isn't it? :)

[Taff]

1.40AM been listening to the floyd for 30mins, now I can't go to bed :bang:

[PlumDragon]

OK what you're saying is very hard to put into words. I can listen to Us And Them for hours on loop because it's simply mesmeric, as an example. Even a relatively "basic" song like Wish You Were Here has something else to it, because it's Pink Floyd. And it's one of those things that you can't explain to people, and some people will never hear it.
I alway think that PF have hooks all through their songs, and they vary in subtlety. No other band I've heard has pulled this off, though I've always found the Pixies catch my attention, but in a different way.

I tend to find the orchestral versions less "distracting". If I'm revising, I can't listen to dark side, because I get swept away! However, I *can* listen to the orchestral version of time without starting to sing away "ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.....", I don't get sucked in, but I also hear something different there.

These things are too hard to talk about, it's all about experience with the floyd isn't it? :)
Agreed 100% on all of the above. ;)

[jroe52]

set the controls for the heart of the sun.... the heart of the sun...

hehe:)

i created this thread a long time ago and had forgotten about it till you peeps started posting hahaha. if any of you know how to use torrents, there are some non-produced live concert or college art clips movies of their old school stuff (late 60's).

my fav is a saucerful of secrets or meddle (besides, dsotm and animals hahaha) is it possible to love all floyd other then the last two albums? i guess, i never liked them on a equal scale since they either discluded rodger or included him and not the band! haha.

i believe its a legal download since there are no marketed versions of the material:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/104303

[lordazazel]

If you look at the album Animals it is a musical version of the classic book by George Orwell "Animal Farm" in which he looks at the state of communist Russia - "all animals are equally, but some are more equal than other" ;)

Thought that was a brilliant idea- you have the pigs (the rulers), the dogs (the enforcement) and the sheep (the general public, controlled by the dogs and constantly fooled by the pigs).

Animals is a brilliant concept album. As is DSOM - its about life, death and everything in between. All great works of art that I'm sure will endure.

"Animals" is my favourite FLOYD album, a real masterpiece. :D It's not exclusively a concept album about Communhist Russia, though. The song "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", which is my favourite FLOYD song, is about Mary Whitehouse (the UK's equivalent of Tipper Gore, only much worse :bang: ) and her over-zealous attitude to censorship.

A few of you are under the impression that Roger Water's contribution to "The Wall" alienated the rest of the band.... while he was the dominant force on that record, it was the next album "The Final Cut" (almost completely dominated by Waters, with it's various war-oriented themes), which was the final straw. Having said that, "The Division Bell" was great. :D

[jroe52]

animals is based on "animal farm" which is a criticizm of... pigs, dogs and sheep! all different viewpoints on the faults of capitalism, communism and the act of doing nothing (in improving the situation or by supporting crappy systems)

if you think about it... it picks on military communism and how it hurts people and how greedy piggy capitalists often think about their own greedy interest, and not the true needs of the people. the sheep, are the blind followers whom support both groups!