Filipino kickin'

[stump]

hi all,

was wondering if someone could help me with this. (Yoda??? :) )

There's a low kick I was taught ages ago that uses the shin to "drop" on the opponents leg from the front rather than the standard thai low round kick. Does this ring a bell with anyone out there?

If so can you let me know if i'm describing it correctly?

[YODA]

Hmmmmmmmm............

Depends on what you call "the standard thai low round kick". There are at least 4 different types of low round kick in muay Thai.

Gimme a more detailed description & I'll get back to you with my thoughts.

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[Greyghost]

On yer sel big man....well done wi the 500 posts an that no.

[stump]

Sorry I'm not particularly well versed in thai kicking. The way this kick differs from others I've seen is it's barely a kick at all in the sense that there's little extension of the leg from the knee joint. The leg is picked up and the shin is dropped directly onto the top of the opponents leg almost horizontally accross. The kicking leg is barely extended at all and the power comes from the bodyweight which is dropped downwards onto the opponents leg.

Sorry, i'm crap at explaining things like this. :( Hope this is a bit more clear

[YODA]

Originally posted by stump
Sorry I'm not particularly well versed in thai kicking. The way this kick differs from others I've seen is it's barely a kick at all in the sense that there's little extension of the leg from the knee joint. The leg is picked up and the shin is dropped directly onto the top of the opponents leg almost horizontally accross. The kicking leg is barely extended at all and the power comes from the bodyweight which is dropped downwards onto the opponents leg.

Sorry, i'm crap at explaining things like this. :( Hope this is a bit more clear


--- Yes I get it now. That way of kicking is found in both Muay Thai and the filipino arts.

[br00ster]

Isn't the term "sikaran" used for filipino kicking(spelling)?

[YODA]

Sometimes yes.

Pananjakman is another.

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[stump]

I thought that sikaran is a specific type of filipino martial art/game rather than a generic term for filipino kicking?

I remember reading that it involves one person in the centre of a circle and another challneges them and they have to kick each other out of the circle...in a king of the castle type way

[pesilat]

Originally posted by stump
I thought that sikaran is a specific type of filipino martial art/game rather than a generic term for filipino kicking?

I remember reading that it involves one person in the centre of a circle and another challneges them and they have to kick each other out of the circle...in a king of the castle type way

It is a martial art and a sport. So is, for instance, "pangamot" (Filipino boxing). But I'm not sure that they are specific systems. I think the terms "sikaran" and "pananjakman" (among others) are umbrella terms like "TKD" that refer to a family of systems that emphasize kicking. And "pangamot", "panantukan", "suntuken", "kamut kamut" (among others) are umbrella terms that refer to a family of systems that emphasize boxing (though, unlike Western Boxing, these Filipino Boxing arts use the forearms, elbows, shoulders, head, and knee for striking ... and they're legal in the sport application of these arts).

As far as the sport that you're referring to ... I don't know a lot about it, but, if memory serves, you get points for landing kicks and for knocking your opponent down. I forget whether knocking him out of the ring is points or an automatic win. And if you knock him out, you win.

Mike

[officer_fujita]

Originally posted by stump
I thought that sikaran is a specific type of filipino martial art/game rather than a generic term for filipino kicking?

I remember reading that it involves one person in the centre of a circle and another challneges them and they have to kick each other out of the circle...in a king of the castle type way

Sikaran is a specific type of Filipino martial art. It relies heavily on kicking and in some ways like Korea's TKD. It originated in the province of Rizal, and is still popular there (they even have a huge gym-like structure for the practitioners of the art), although it is still virtually unknown even among Filipinos

The general term would have to be pananandyakan, which would describe an art which employs kick (or panununtukan for an art which employs blows with the hands or fists like boxing)

[jamores]

Originally posted by br00ster
Isn't the term "sikaran" used for filipino kicking(spelling)?
Sikaran is an Ancient Art of Filipino Footfighting which was practiced by farmers. Grandmaster Col. Meliton C. Geronimo also known as Mayor Latigo of Baras, Rizal, Philippines received the Legend Of The Year Award at the 3rd. Annual MARTIAL ARTS MASTERS,
PIONEERS & LEGENDS HALL OF FAME.

[shootodog]

sikaran is different. someone showed it to me once. the fighter practically commits his whole body to the kick.

a yaw yan kick is a strange kick. think of an un-chambered kick (ala muay thai). now, chamber it and release as the knee passes the middle line. it is actually like an unchambered knee, then releasing the kick. really nasty stuff.

the other pinoy kicks used in fma systems look like a low door breaker or low sliding side. this is because of the triangular foot work of most fma systems. the opening for a kick is presented at an angle. another one looks like the kick used in the game sipa. again it happens because the target presents itself at an angle.

pivots are usually taken from the heel for both arts.