Interception

[YODA]

The Stop-Hit

Do you use interception / stop-hits?

What are your favourite / most successful stop-hits?

Do you differentiate between different types? I.e. opposed / simple?

[Cain]

Damn important to me I always prefer a stop-hit instead of a block [Stop hit means a counter I hope that's what you mean]

I stop hit mostly at a long range when I see my opponent moving in closer with a thrust kick or 'burst kick' as in JKD.

As for close range I will only say this -

when an opponent attacks your face a part of their body becomes vulnerable :D
when an opponent attacks your body a part of their face becomes vulnerable :D

|Cain|

[YODA]

A stop-hit is not a counter. It is an attack on the opponent's preparation to attack.

It's the subject of my next article for MAP so I don't want to go into too much detail.

[pgm316]

Are we discussing simultanious block and strike or block then strike. I've lost tract a bit.

In Wing Chun, a lot of simultanious block and strike is used. I'd say if you can do this in a fight you'll be at a big advantage!

Obviously depends a lot on what the attack is, but I like moving to someones side while blocking there punch with a palm/fore arm block while putting a punch into their floating ribs!

[pgm316]

Sorry I think I know what you mean now, stoping an attack before it happens.

I like that, was only practising it the other week. Stepping into an opponent either hitting away there leading hand or simply covering it. Another WC technique is trapping which involves pushing one of your opponents arms over their other to really tie them up.

I think its usually to use when you taking the initiative in a fight!

[TkdWarrior]

hmm interception or checking(as my teacher says) is one of my fav...don't let oppn't intiate the move... let him move first but u'll reach first...
we apply both with hands n foot techniques...stopping the base of power...
-TkdWarrior-

[Cain]

Originally posted by YODA
A stop-hit is not a counter. It is an attack on the opponent's preparation to attack.

It's the subject of my next article for MAP so I don't want to go into too much detail.

Hmm...then I don't know much about a stop-hit and keep me posted about that article when it comes :)
|Cain|

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Closest I'll do is a block either stepping in to deliver a strike, or a block folding into an elbow strike of some form.

[johndoch]

My favourite stop hits are front Kick to solar plexus and jab to face followed by right cross.

I like the front kick against the big hitters that tend to square of as they rush in. You can also push off them to get away if the timing of your kick is too slow.

I like the jab to the face as a stop hit as the jab tends to be quickest and easiest to "beat someone to punch" so long as you dont stay in their line of fire. I find it also serves as a good range finder for a good cross especially if your jab unbalances your opponent.

Yoda

Quote: "Do you differentiate between different types? I.e. opposed / simple?"

Can you elaborate on this?

I would say there are various types of stop-hit with the biggest differences coming from footwork/body movement and obviously your striking tool.

[Freeform]

Don't know if this one counts, but from a roundhouse punch (Saturday night special) I like just a quick open handed slam into the shoulder. If the punch is thrown with real intent (which haymakers usually are), about 50% of the time the guys fist ends up in his own face.

Colin

[Scotty Dog]

for me it's the classic jeet tek to their lead leg, especially if they're coming in for a jab. If I get it on it's a beaut :) , don't get it on as much as I'd like though :(


orig posted by YODA Do you differentiate between different types? I.e. opposed / simple?

any chance on some elaboration on the diff types??

elhig

[LilBunnyRabbit]

If they're actually walking forwards we have a couple of drills for practicing stopping kicks, but they're only designed for someone rushing at you to be honest.

[YODA]

Originally posted by ckdstudent
If they're actually walking forwards we have a couple of drills for practicing stopping kicks, but they're only designed for someone rushing at you to be honest.

That's a good thing - people have a habit of doing that in real fights.

OK - the main difference between the two.

1. Simple Stop-Hit.
Attacks on preparation to any line as long as it arrives at leat one beat before the oppoenents intended attack.

2. Opposed Stop-Hit
Sometimes called a "Time Hit".
As above but also closes or occupies the line of the intended attack.

[Bruce Lee]

My favorite stop his is when your opponent is about to kick you and you kick your opponent in the thigh.Have you guys tried that?(yes I think )

[YODA]

You think correctly :D

[simonlarcombe]

Yeah, that's a good one Bruce Lee.

I have a friend who is a boxer, he thinks that all you need to know to fight is boxing... so I told him to attack me, front kick to the knee.. oh dear! Quite amusing, and guess what... now he's interested :D

[Bruce Lee]

Thankyou Yoda
Who made up the stop-hit?

[br00ster]

I think YOU took it from fencing Bruce?!?:D

[Bruce Lee]

Of course I did I was triying to fool you guys.
Bruce Lee is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[Darzeka]

Yeah we learn it as kicking counters first - as they kick you kick faster and kick the kick.

You can apply it to your blocks - attacking blocks. When I block it will hurt the other guy.

My favourites are the foot edge kick - low snapping kick, is VERY fast using the edge of your foot, aim for the knee or shin and they won't be happy, aim for the bit above the knee and they won't be able to walk and may be missing a knee cap if I'm waring my arse kicking boots. Can also be done higher but with more danger to your foot and balance.
If they kick high and straight I like the heel kick. Just heel kick the kicking leg of the attacker from any angle. As they raise thier leg you can kick the thigh (very painful) or the knee/shin if they get it high quickly ( granted if its already that high then you will get kicked). But the best thing I like of it is a slight shift to the side and kick at it sideways and push them off balance. I can make people fall on thier faces - is quite funny.

For the hand strikes I like to use heel of palms or forearms. If you see the strike form, strike at it then from a position of readiness then you will have more momentum will strike harder than them - having tough arms helps, not feeling pain too to a certain extent. Also these "stop hits" or attack blocks or pre-emtive blocking can be used as awesome ways into throws/takedowns/locks and all variations of these because they will useually trap something, push them off balance or distract them from what you are doing.

Just my appreciation from training tonite - quite spooky as tonight I was talking about this to some of the students and beibng taught it - kick counters by a black belt (he scares me).

I am keenly awaiting YODA's article for elaborations, explantions and extrapolations.

[dredleviathan]

Then wait thee no more:

Yoda's article (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=104)

[YODA]

Thanks :D

[simonlarcombe]

Good article Yoda, do you have a lot of fencing experience? It would seem that you could learn a few very good things from it, what you've mentioned here, start speed etc. I wouldn't mind having a play sometime :)

[ff_mattjones]

I like the simple side kick stop kick or the crescent stop kick from
TKD

[kazgeroth]

In my opinion interception is meant for when the opponent is throwing say a punch/kick that takes time. The best two are the straight punch, jab, or stop kick, to the opponents knee with my lead leg. The opponent comes in for an attack I use my closest weapon to the nearest target. Which of couse you wan't to throw everything in a straight line otherwise your not truly expressing yourself. Must shed all excess movements.

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by simonlarcombe
Good article Yoda, do you have a lot of fencing experience? It would seem that you could learn a few very good things from it, what you've mentioned here, start speed etc. I wouldn't mind having a play sometime :)

Hate to tell you Simon, but Dave (know -it -all) Green, is a qualified fencing instructor.

So if you ever need a nice fence put up in your back garden, he's the man! :D

[YODA]

Yep - slatted panel, concrete post & panel, timber post & rail - I can do it all :D

[Joe karate]

I like the low kick to shin. or close the gap quickly and strike to offset their balance. Depends on how telegraphed movement is that decides the stop hit.

[anubis]

My favorite stop it would be a technique where my lead hand smothers the attack as i simoltaneously follow with my back hand, usually to the temple. quickest form of a knock out.

[YODA]

Originally posted by anubis
My favorite stop it would be a technique where my lead hand smothers the attack as i simoltaneously follow with my back hand, usually to the temple. quickest form of a knock out.


Sounds like a counter attack to me rather than a stop-hit.

[anubis]

Unless I am wrong about this, both hands move in unison so as soon as my defense comes up, my offense is already in place. regardless, the technique has one me many a fight.

[YODA]

You're still reacting to his attack rather than attacking on his preparation :D

[Tireces]

I really like the cut punch, because my usual height/reach advantage amplifies its effectiveness. I also like it because it absolutely puts a stop to the opponent's punch, so in case he can shrug off the intercepting punch for whatever reason, the one he threw isn't coming anymore. I like the Jeet-tek too, although I'm still pretty bad at it, it seems to me to be one of the best applications of interception out there, and also the safest and most complete, because it can put a stop to just about anything at all.

[JKDfreak]

It seems that a lot of guys here use the Jeet Tek!!!!! I love it too.
But you can also do worse:in long range the guy is advancing and throwing his attack.Intercept him with a Push Kick=he will advance/put his weight in front for power and will be suddenly sent back.It will produce a huge clash and the guy will be down!!
Another good way to intercept a punch is to enter on the preparation and throw an upwards elbow to the chin.this will protect you from punches and you'll KO the guy!!!

[BryanX]

INTERCEPT:
To stop, deflect, or interrupt the progress or intended course of.

So it means to intercept the movement that your opponent is going to do. Man, Bruce Lee does this so good, I swear! I already posted a 2:12 clip of the 1963 Karate Tournament and you can see Bruce Lee using 'Jeet Kune Do' on his opponent. Everytime his opponent would apply a move, Bruce would always intercept. In the beginning, his opponent does a roundhouse kick, but Bruce kicks him either between the legs or his standing leg and his opponent couldn't finish his move. This goes on through the whole fight. HAHA! That's so amazing.

Bruce Lee was truly a man of his words. Now, go check out the damn clip at the 'General Discussion' Forum! It's in the "Overrated Bruce Lee" thread.

[BryanX]

Originally posted by Tireces
I really like the cut punch, because my usual height/reach advantage amplifies its effectiveness. I also like it because it absolutely puts a stop to the opponent's punch, so in case he can shrug off the intercepting punch for whatever reason, the one he threw isn't coming anymore. I like the Jeet-tek too, although I'm still pretty bad at it, it seems to me to be one of the best applications of interception out there, and also the safest and most complete, because it can put a stop to just about anything at all.

A "Push Kick"...yes, that's right. In my last post, I think that's the term I should have used when I was explaning what Bruce did to intercept the guy's roundhouse kick. He did a Push Kick. Awesome!

[BryanX]

Ok, I went back and got the video for you guys so you don't have to go searching for it.

Here it is:
http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrel...e_sparring.mpg

[KenpoDavid]

that link is broken

[Kwajman]

I love using my feet to reach in and block a kick while its chambered. It almost always throws them off balance and more than a few have fallen down. I ALWAYS help them up tho.

[BryanX]

Originally posted by KenpoDavid
that link is broken


Sorry about that.

Here it is: http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/bruce_lee_sparring.mpg

[BryanX]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
My favorite stop his is when your opponent is about to kick you and you kick your opponent in the thigh.Have you guys tried that?(yes I think )

That's a good one. But I think you have to be trained in some sort of Martial Arts style for that move in order to do it perfectly(timing, exact point, power), otherwise, it won't work as well.

I also like the move Bruce does to Bob Wall in 'Way of the Dragon' when he was about to kick Bruce, then Bruce applied a stop-hit with his leg(of course) to Bob's kicking leg. He was super fast!