ever been in love ?

[freespirit]

I just wanted to find out, how many mapers have actually been in love, i don't mean thinking you are in love but actually loved somone truely ?

[morphus]

First one has to define love before knowing if we've experienced it.

[Mrs Owt]

I'll be celebrating 16 years of marriage with him in August. We've been together since I was 15 and I wouldn't trade a day with him for anything. I have only grown to appreciate him more and more for the real, sincere, honest, honourable man that he is.

[Jim]

Yes, and can I say that it was the best chocolate brownie I ever ate. :D

[Intan86]

I've been in love with the same guy but did not have him as my own. I have feelings for him since I was 11 and till now, he don't know that yet. He has a long-time girlfriend and they are going steady and serious about their relationship. He even mentioned that he is going to marry her...sob..sob..sob.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Days turns to months,
Years turns to a century,
We've went different paths,
But forever in my heart, you will always be.

I love YOU very Much. :(

[47Ronin]

Down the tube....................Anyone remember that song cold as ice?

[chungmoomonkey]

i was then that skank ho destroyed my life

[Tireces]

Yes, and I am now.

[totality]

Down the tube....................Anyone remember that song cold as ice?

know EXACTLY how you feel...but i prefer the techno remix of cold as ice done by happy hardcore.

[Grifter]

First one has to define love before knowing if we've experienced it.


Thats my thought exactlly Morphus. Im not even sure what love is let alone if Ive been in love

[Kenpo Kicker]

No, but I thought I was in love a couple of times.

[booksie_girl]

Nope, never :(

[Poop-Loops]

Nah.

If you don't know what love is (like I don't), chances are, you've never been in love.

PL

[wayofthedragon]

I am in love:love:

[Pacificshore]

Still Am :cool:

[RAD]

for 20 years now :D

[Geisha Girl]

I just wanted to find out, how many mapers have actually been in love, i don't mean thinking you are in love but actually loved somone truely ?
I know about true love. When I first saw my baby on the screen of the ultra sound I was overwhelmed but I knew I loved her. The first time that I looked into her face after she was born that was love at first sight and an over whelming emotion that I can't put into words. That to me is what LOVE really is. I look at her pictures and look at her and each day I love her more and more and it never stops. To me she is what being in love is. Having this feeling of being whole. As far as putting love into the context of man woman .. no.. I thought I loved her dad but love doesn't hurt emotionly

[Guerilla Fists]

I thought I was in love once. For two years I loved this girl intensly, no doubt about that. I loved her soo dearly, and it wasn't just that she was great, but I also fell in love with the person I became when she was in my life. I never abused, cheated, demeaned her in anyway, but now she won't talk to me. Haven't heard from her in half a year. So now I don't know if what we had was love, because love shouldn't hurt like that. But if it is love, I don't think I'll ever be dumb enough to do it again...

[Chris.B]

I think I fell in love, awhile back...was pussy didn't ask her out...and she liked me. Don't talk to her still like her, and I can't just start talking to here just randomly threw the year. Do I still hate myself for doing that...Of Course :D

[Alex103701]

Contrary to my vote, (which was yes by the way), I am in love. I liked her since I got to know her, and still do now. She liked me, and vice versa, but I was chicken, and didn't ask her out. Now she has a boyfriend, but we are best friends. Sometimes I still wish it could be more...

[Geisha Girl]

Down the tube....................Anyone remember that song cold as ice?
Oh yeah and Nazereth..love hurts..or Jewel ..foolish games..or Soft cells tainted love...just to name a few that describe "love" in an "adult" relationship...I think we need to start a love stinks been scorned club.. :woo:

[Geisha Girl]

I thought I was in love once. For two years I loved this girl intensly, no doubt about that. I loved her soo dearly, and it wasn't just that she was great, but I also fell in love with the person I became when she was in my life. I never abused, cheated, demeaned her in anyway, but now she won't talk to me. Haven't heard from her in half a year. So now I don't know if what we had was love, because love shouldn't hurt like that. But if it is love, I don't think I'll ever be dumb enough to do it again...
You impress me 8.. that's deep and honest and I think that if more men out there would be that open about there feelings it would make relationships more worth the time we put in them. The only time my boyfriend ever said anything near that nice to me was when I dumped him and I saw him two months later and he told me he couldn't just be my friend and all this blah blah you are the best woman ever blah blah no one ever me treated as good as you blah blah there for me and something about sorry I tried to change you I want you to be you ... it was real sweet but it was BULLSHTUFF! I know because he started the same SHTUFF less then a week later.Your a nice guy 8 don't let life or "love" get you down..

[Guerilla Fists]

You impress me 8.. that's deep and honest and I think that if more men out there would be that open about there feelings it would make relationships more worth the time we put in them. The only time my boyfriend ever said anything near that nice to me was when I dumped him and I saw him two months later and he told me he couldn't just be my friend and all this blah blah you are the best woman ever blah blah no one ever me treated as good as you blah blah there for me and something about sorry I tried to change you I want you to be you ... it was real sweet but it was BULLSHTUFF! I know because he started the same SHTUFF less then a week later.Your a nice guy 8 don't let life or "love" get you down..
Don't get me wrong. I was very appreciative of her love and I always let her know, not just in words but in actions.
I remember after we were dating for a while she had mentioned that strawberries were her favorite fruit. So I made a special cup cake batter with strawberry jam in the middle, then I frosted them with strawberry frosting, and sliced up strawberries on the top. Then I went to a delicatesen and bought some strawberry syrupy stuff and spelled out "Be My Girl" on them.
I would take the greyhound for eleven hours to see her for the weekends (not every weekend, we had our own lives) when we went to seperate colleges.
I don't let it get medown, I still go on with what I have to do.

[Brad Ellin]

Was/is/and will always be. Loved and lost, fouund it again and never lost it. Old loves, new loves and loves yet to be found. You could say I live for love. Not to be loved, but to love. My wife, my daughters and friends. Those I have now, had before and friends not yet found.

I know you're out there!

[Isabella la Red]

Thought I was in 1982 with first husband( turned out bad after 13 yrs)
then again in 1994 (went the same way as the first, felt like for ever but wasnt)
but actually did fall in love in 1996
and im still pretty much inlove its just different.
I love to look at his naked body, and do things most wouldnt, yer any ways. :love: :eek: :rolleyes:

but I have a passion which I love does that count.
put it this way, the passion was a hobbie which has turned into a way of life.
smiles.

[Xianghua]

I wish more guys were like you, 8. :love:

The world would be a better place.

[Guerilla Fists]

Xianghua,
Whoa no way, I just checked your profile and saw that you train in Shou Shu too! I had no idea. Did you introduce yourself in the kung fu forum yet? How long have you been training?
See you at camp!
8

[Kwajman]

Two thoughts,

1. Chungmoomonkey, you have to learn NOT to hold your feelings in. Tell us how you really feel about her.


2. I love my kids.....

okay 3. Chungmoo, did you know my ex-wife by the way?

okay 4. Isabella, uhmmm, you sure have a way with words...***blushing***

[Ad McG]

Currently :love:

[Chimpcheng]

I am constantly falling in love. :D

Britney, Zhang ZiYi, all the girls in Buffy the Vampire Slayer (especially Michelle Trachtenberg', The Little Mermaid, the girls off the video game 'Dead or Alive 2', the girl who worked on reception at work and the girl in the 'Yes Car Credit' Ads on TV.

:Angel:

[Jim]

All y'all need to eat more chocolate brownies...

[Kinjiro Tsukasa]

I'm not sure how to vote on this one -- does it count as "being in love" if the other person doesn't love you back?

[Guerilla Fists]

It counts that much more. The more it hurts the more it's love.

[Kwajman]

NO NO NO NO NO, well, never again...maybe

[Guerilla Fists]

I meant hurts emotionally, not physically.

[Chimpcheng]

I'm not sure how to vote on this one -- does it count as "being in love" if the other person doesn't love you back?

Hmmmm, loving someone who doesn't love you back, sounds like love to me :) Er, I mean :( Oh great, now I'm all upset now thanks Kinjiro :( :( :(

[freespirit]

my story is almost the same as 8's, i love this girl and she loved me back but she has had some problems with her past and we grew apart, i still love her but i can't even be her freind because of the way she has treated me, despite how much i would like to be.

[Kirberus]

I don't know if it is love or not, but since the start of this school year I have been infatuated with a girl in my 6th hour class. I am just now(3 days ago) finding out that she likes me a lot. I would have said something to her sooner but I am a nervous reck when it comes to this thing and am really reserved so it is hard for me. I find this girl to be perfect in nearly every way and am so glad to find out that she likes me too yet I still haven't asked her out due to my shyness and my lack of being able to express myself emotionally. Gah, I need to stop being such a fool and just ask her out before it's too late. :(

[KickChick]

Was/is/and will always be. Loved and lost, fouund it again and never lost it. Old loves, new loves and loves yet to be found. You could say I live for love. Not to be loved, but to love. My wife, my daughters and friends. Those I have now, had before and friends not yet found.

I know you're out there!

Wow ... I feel that too... nicely expressed. :love:

[Brad Ellin]

Wow ... I feel that too... nicely expressed. :love:

I find it is much easier to go thru life with love in the heart than hatred on the lips. It's so much easier to hate someone, sure, that's the lazy way out. I believe that 99% of the people out there have some quality about them that makes it easy to love them. I'd rather know that part about them than nothing at all and then claim they're idiots or morons because they cut me off in traffic or took too long at the bank teller. Maybe it's old age, but I'm tired of being angry at the world. So I choose to love it and live in it!

[yes]

I'm in love at the moment. :)

[Kwajman]

Well, I love my kids. No time for someone else.

[Mrs Owt]

I don't know if it is love or not, but since the start of this school year I have been infatuated with a girl in my 6th hour class. I am just now(3 days ago) finding out that she likes me a lot. I would have said something to her sooner but I am a nervous reck when it comes to this thing and am really reserved so it is hard for me. I find this girl to be perfect in nearly every way and am so glad to find out that she likes me too yet I still haven't asked her out due to my shyness and my lack of being able to express myself emotionally. Gah, I need to stop being such a fool and just ask her out before it's too late. :(

Kirberus, go for it! I married my highschool sweetheart almost 16 years ago and have never regretted it. He too was very shy and reserved but I am glad he overcame it. You many miss something really good if you let this opportunity slip by you.

[Kirberus]

Kirberus, go for it! I married my highschool sweetheart almost 16 years ago and have never regretted it. He too was very shy and reserved but I am glad he overcame it. You many miss something really good if you let this opportunity slip by you.
I asked her, but she said "I need to think about it" which can't be a good sign. I don't understand, she told me that she liked me and she was flirting with me so I am really confused right now. Hopefully I didn't mess things up. Oh well, just have to wait and see...

[BangkokBabay]

I'm always in Love :love:

:Angel:

[blaksun]

Whats love? A strong positive feeling for someone? Cool, I feel that way about lotsa people.
What about *true* love? Who can define it? How can you ever know if it is true love?

[aikiMac]

All y'all need to eat more chocolate brownies...
Or get a dog. A dog will teach you love. (I wish that I was the person my dog thinks I am.)

Or both. Eat brownies with your dog, ya, that's it.

[aikiMac]

What about *true* love? Who can define it? How can you ever know if it is true love?
Have children, and if you're the daddy, catch them when they come out, and as they grow, snuggle them a lot.

[blaksun]

Have children, and if you're the daddy, catch them when they come out, and as they grow, snuggle them a lot.

Ew dude! Not only do I not want to have children, but I don't want to catch them as they come out!

[Brad Ellin]

Have children, and if you're the daddy, catch them when they come out, and as they grow, snuggle them a lot.

Have and did and do!

[Battle Sword]

Still Am :cool:
[B]Love is grand! Love is divine! Never let it go!

[Battle Sword]

Love. Its better to have loved & lost than never to have loved at all!!! I believe in the power
of love. Romantic love is awesome!!! PASSION!!! Sometimes when people fall in love, the
other person is too busy to even notice, but love is patient & gentle & it's strong too!!!
Love is powerful!!! Love conquers all!!! True love escapes some of us, hopefully not forever.
Never give up on love, the idea of love, of falling in love, being & staying in love. Love waits.

[Shou Tu]

Have children, and if you're the daddy, catch them when they come out, and as they grow, snuggle them a lot.

yep, that says it best.

Make sure they know that you love them no matter what they do to anger you or dissapoint you. you have to let them know that you love them.

[Kwajman]

There is no love, love has been crushed and turned to dust, buried, smashed, taken and hidden away....think I have issues with this or anything???? :love:

[Mrs Owt]

There is no love, love has been crushed and turned to dust, buried, smashed, taken and hidden away....think I have issues with this or anything???? :love:
Need to talk Kwaj? That was depressing! :(

[Kwajman]

WHO???? MEEEEEEEE? Not I surely. I love lots of things, birds and trees and my sons and my dog and what used to be my house....What EVER gave you the idea that I was soured on love?????? :D :Angel:

[neryo_tkd]

What EVER gave you the idea that I was soured on love?????? :D :Angel:

There is no love, love has been crushed and turned to dust, buried, smashed, taken and hidden away....


You soured on love???? Naaahhhhh :D :D :D

[booksie_girl]

WHO???? MEEEEEEEE? Not I surely. I love lots of things, birds and trees and my sons and my dog and what used to be my house....What EVER gave you the idea that I was soured on love?????? :D :Angel:
Soured on love? Nah, it's easy to see that you love your kids :). Soured on romance...? I haven't seen any evidence of that at all.

[Kwajman]

NO NO NO Love sucks...see a pattern with my posts?

[Mrs Owt]

NO NO NO Love sucks...see a pattern with my posts?
Pattern? No way - you are obviously an incurable romantic with boundless optimism :( .

[Kwajman]

I was waiting for you to track this post down. I guess you'll just have to find a good woman for me to meet! Oh, and I am joking about love sucking and stuff, mostly I just want to see your reaction, stay tuned.....

[Albert]

Me.

[Guerilla Fists]

This is the best way I can describe love. Love is waking up to the sun warming your belly, as you open your eyes your ears fill with the song of birds chirping and squirrels running in the grass, and once you feel truly touched by this beautiful moment a rabid dog bites you in the nuts.

[Kwajman]

Well Guerilla, I might have said it a bit more subtle, but yea, its kinda like that.

[Guerilla Fists]

I think that would make a good commercial for Sierra Mist, this dog bites a dude in the nuts and the announcer goes "Yeah, it's kinda like that..." then he barfs all over the camera which would be totally cool.

[dori_kin_86]

I am currently, but I don't know if she loves me back. We are good friends though

[Krazy5051]

A ninja can show compassion if anything, but never fall in love.

Yours in martial arts,

Kid

[Xio]

"No"!
oh i'm so alone right now...lol :D

About the dog thing:
I saw an advertisement for Sony PS and it had a picture of a teenager standing in a park, legs apart, in some kind of determined trance, and he had a dog hanging off his nuts. The headline was "the true master never shows pain!". There was anpther one too with the same guy sitting on a park bench, and an old granny was picking his nose, i mean WTF? The headline was "the true master never challenges the unworthy opponent". :D

I don't know why i brought this up but oh well.

[Nrv4evr]

i used to date this girl, really nice, but she wanted to go to another college. :cry: i got over it, life goes on.

i am currently in love with myself and my art, though, if you were wondering.

[Kwajman]

A ninja can show compassion if anything, but never fall in love.

Yours in martial arts,

Kid


Yes they do, Ninjas adore pirates from afar....known fact, ask Kinjiro T. :D

[Mrs Owt]

Yes they do, Ninjas adore pirates from afar....known fact, ask Kinjiro T. :D
Is that a can opener I hear? Opening a can of worms perhaps? ;)

[vicjudofreak]

nope...

[Kwajman]

Is that a can opener I hear? Opening a can of worms perhaps? ;)


If KT doesn't see this post, theres no worms now is there!! :)

[Tika]

This is the best way I can describe love. Love is waking up to the sun warming your belly, as you open your eyes your ears fill with the song of birds chirping and squirrels running in the grass, and once you feel truly touched by this beautiful moment a rabid dog bites you in the nuts.

*sings* jaded....jjjjjaded....

Love is the most incredible thing in existance. I have only had a taste of it here and there, and I can only hope that someday I will have it completely.

[Mrs Owt]

If KT doesn't see this post, theres no worms now is there!! :)
IF... ;)

[Scarlet Mist]

Love? What is love? Well I really have no idea. I'm like 18 or something and I've had one girlfriend who messed with my head and threw a fit at me when I was heading off to college. My response: To hell with that .....

Life is good. Love is for chumps :D




Well, I guess I'm sort of a chump

[Kwajman]

Love? What is love? Well I really have no idea. I'm like 18 or something and I've had one girlfriend who messed with my head and threw a fit at me when I was heading off to college. My response: To hell with that .....

Life is good. Love is for chumps :D




Well, I guess I'm sort of a chump

You'll find that all women mess with your head, just that some do it more than others. :)

[Nrv4evr]

yea, there's fermats equation, advanced university calculus, post doctorate quadratic algebra, and all that jazz, but none compare to the mystery of the woman's mind. :D

[d33pthought]

I think I've only loved one girl in all my 19 years of existence, and it was the girl in my 8th grade english class that I never had the balls to ask out. I loved everything about her, especially her red hair that ended reluctantly at her waist. She used to draw these little flowers and spirals and arabesques on her wrists and in her notebook. She also had a way of magically folding herself up so she could sit cross-legged in one of those desk/chair attatched things (she was about 5'10" at the time). Yeah, it was probably more of an infatuation or obsession, but what the hell? I think it was love so that's what it was. Anyway, I never saw her since, but I still can draw those flowers like she used to.

[Scarlet Mist]

Yes d33pthought. I too am frequently infatuated with members of the opposite sex. Of course, those chicks usually cause more problems than they're worth, so I try to watch myself. I once avoided this girl on campus for almost a month after she (although she denies it) sent me a cheezy love - letter email.
At least we're still good frineds though :D

[d33pthought]

you got creeped out over a cheesey love-letter? Dude! What other kind of love letters are there?! :p

[Scarlet Mist]

No, not because it was cheezy (you're quite right about them all being cheezy), but because i had just started college (this was like in the 2nd month) and I was still clueless. Life is hard enough without a lady, had it been a little later I may have enjoyed the cheezy love letter.

[nunchukpaul]

Use them and lose them, you dont need love it just fcuks with your mind and ruins mans alibity to be great, Dont stay in a relationship at all and if you have to dont let it last more then a week otherwise your truly screwed :confused:

[Nrv4evr]

haven't had many warm relationships have you? :o

[d33pthought]

I had a few wierd relationships..the wierdest one was where I was seeing this girl who was already *cough*attached*cough* but she broke up with the guy, got really depressed and then stopped talking to me. And it was going so well, too. I saw her a week or two ago, though. Doing well, and she gave me blueberries.

[Battle Sword]

Love....its wonderful!!!! Gotta just be your self and hope your dreams
come true someday....somewhere....somehow.... ;)

[Mawi]

Even my Muay Thai can't protect me agianst some one saying I DUMP YOU. (well it can, i would probaly kick the gril's face off |||jking||| ;) ) Thou emotions often get the best of most peolpe i think true love is hard to find. This days its all about sex. Love as it is was very very awsome but love for sex will never really last. Well i love my parents and love Martail arts but i am not ready for a true love. :D If i ever do get in love and have kids after i get marryed, i would let my kids enjoy life ( and teach them muay thai at a early age LOL) Thou i allways wonder what if i die, and what if my childern never get a good life so they can grow in, to be great human beings. One of my fav fighter and idol was Andy Hug he really is something to be. Thou like bruce lee he died in his early 30th, he had kid and a beutiful wife. So now he will not be there or his kid and for his wife. So i just want to learn as many arts as possible and go to fighter heaven (i hope). I don't think i will ever want to get in love becuse i don't want to leve my childern or wife behind when i die. We are going to die but or family will be alone with out us. This is the world death up on death so why love and get that love broken when they die on you. Love isn't 4ever becuse often peolpe get marryed after there husband or wife has died. :cry: if there was no death i could do MA and love it forever. :love:

[Brad Ellin]

A ninja can show compassion if anything, but never fall in love.

Yours in martial arts,

Kid

Bull. Mind telling me why not?

[Tittan]

:love: I love my wife so much it almost hurts!! :love:

[Kwajman]

Hmmmmm, I've recently gotten involved in a discussion with a psychologist as wondering if love is even real.

[Mrs Owt]

Hmmmmm, I've recently gotten involved in a discussion with a psychologist as wondering if love is even real.
Hmmm...careful letting those psychologists in your head Kwaj! They'll have you doubting whether you're real soon!

No seriously, love is real. But it is a verb - an action word. You have to be doing it to feel it. Just like running. I know running is real even though I may not be doing it right now. Love is not a passive state.

[Tika]

:love: I love my wife so much it almost hurts!! :love:

Thats sweet. Hope that happens to me one day.

[Bloke]

As the song Teardrops from Massive Attack goes...


...Love, Love is a verb, love is a doing word...

Love does exist. I have had some relationships in the past that were strange to say the least but I have never in 37 years cared for someone enough to want to spend the rest of my life getting to know them completely....until I met my Jenny. Shes the reason the sky is blue and the grass is green and beer tastes soooo good. And thats why I asked her to marry me and buy a house together - well we will get the house first and then the wedding.

Only thing is she says no when I suggest getting married in my Karategi. I dont want to but I love the look on her face when I suggest it.

Laters

[Kwajman]

Well Bloke, if thats your real name :cool:, I knew someone like that a long time ago. Your too new to know my history here. Kind of convoluted. I once believed in love long ago in a far away place.

Just kidding Bloke, married? Heck I want to get buried in my dobok, I almost live in it now. Too comfy for words......

Mrs. O, the psychologist is a friend, we like to have very "deep" discussions on intangibles. Gets kind of funny over a bottle of merlot. Love is our current topic. She even feels love for our children is biological and organic rather than instinct. Kind of a corny discussion I know.


hmm hm, lalalala ***waiting for Mrs. Owts verbal thrashing***

[RichieRich]

I'd just like to point out that who ever came up with this nugget:

"It is better to have love and lost, then to have never loved at all."

Obviously wasn't in love at all. It changes you as a person, not for the better in my case and If I had my time over I WOULDN'T do that again! :(

"I can't believe I'm not bitter"

[Stuart H]

Best 12 months of my life. Beautiful, intelligent Californian girl I met on a house-building trip in Mexico. Soon afterwards, she came to stay with me for a month. Quickly became a serious relationship. Then, just over a year after it began, it ended in Paris (of all places). It's now month 17. It's been painful to say the least, but given the chance, I'd do it all again.

[Humblebee]

if one has to define what love is then they've never truly been in love.

[Greg-VT]

No I haven't, but I swear I'm falling...

[leeless]

Is love that tingling feeling you get in your stomach whenever your with her. Is love that feeling where you don't want to say goodbye at the end of the night? Is love feeling that weight in your heart when you realise she doesn't love you back?

Love is painfull. Love is weakness. Love is random.

God damnit though, to love and to be loved is all I want.








Hmmmmm...I need to listen to some "Today Is The Day"!

[WatchfulAbyss]

if one has to define what love is then they've never truly been in love.

I agree the feelings involved with love are many, most of the time you can't even put half of them into words.
I also think that the loss of love atleast for me is almost like dieing inside a perfect part of you damaged.

[leeless]

"...the loss of love, at least for me, is almost like dying inside, a perfect part of you damaged."

I needed to punctuate that, 'cause it sums up how I've been feeling recently. Bo!

[WatchfulAbyss]

I needed to punctuate that, 'cause it sums up how I've been feeling recently. Bo

lol
punctuation has never been my strong side..

[Greg-VT]

No I haven't, but I swear I'm falling...
How do you contact someone (who you have never talked to), after seeing their photo and reading their interests, without coming accross as a creepy stalker? :confused:

[WatchfulAbyss]

As long as you don't start off by telling them that you live in their attic, you should be fine.
Oh and don't ask for pictures of their feet. :D

[WatchfulAbyss]

I would say just use common sense, Im sure you know what would be creepy, just saying hi should be fine.

[funkymonk]

I went out with a girl i met through taekwondo for a couple of months and totally fell for her in a big way. Unfortunately she didn't want a serious relationship and we split up:(. I'd never felt so down in my whole life and even though i've been out with a lot of girls since i can't get her out of my head.
About a month ago she phoned me out of the blue with a problem that she needed to talk to somebody about. I told her i was glad that she felt she could come to me and she apologized for the way she treated me. Now we are training together,going for saunas and meals and really getting on great. I'd love to get back with her but i'm scared of spoiling a good friendship and making a fool of myself. :(
I suppose i should be happy to have her as a friend but it still hurts :(

[daftyman]

Yes.

Getting married in December! She's brilliant! :love:

[davefly76]

i didn't think i was, now she doesn't love me anymore. i now realise that i am and that she was my life but it's too late as she say's her feelings have changed.

she now say's that she loves me but is not "in" love with me and that we will still be good friends which is a good thing

we split up a week ago after 4 years of being together and living together for 3, at the moment i'm finding it so hard as everything i look at in the house reminds me of the special time we had together

[RichieRich]

i didn't think i was, now she doesn't love me anymore. i now realise that i am and that she was my life but it's too late as she say's her feelings have changed.

she now say's that she loves me but is not "in" love with me and that we will still be good friends which is a good thing

we split up a week ago after 4 years of being together and living together for 3, at the moment i'm finding it so hard as everything i look at in the house reminds me of the special time we had together

Sorry Fella. Feel your pain.

[davefly76]

thanks mate

it's getting easier but sometimes i just can't control my emotions

[Tribalweapon]

Pretty much given up on the whole idea

[Artemis]

I was...I think he's gay now! hee hee!

Loving the single life!

To those who are heart broken I have a great quick fix -
think of the way you used to lie in your bed with your partner - same old side, same old pillow, they nick the blanket, he's snoring! eekk

Now- when you're going to your fab bed tonight - lie slap bang in the middle, stretch your arms and legs out as far as they'll go! Take a deep breath, exhale slowly, and think "its all mine...yes it's all mine"!!!

It truely is wonderful!

[NeonxBurst]

I currently am still in a relationship with the same girl I was a year ago, and I've never been so happy in my whole life. Yeah I know I'm only 14 and I shouldn't take this too seriously, but her and I are just so happy to be together. It's like we have our own little world where the rest of the world has no effect on us. She's my world and I'm hers, and I know this sounds like something out of a fantasy, and some days I wake up and wonder if it is, but then I see her and I realize it's more than real. Being the good Christians we both are we won't take the physical part too far. We don't have the kind of money it takes to take care of a child. Her parents and my parents get along well, and her parents treat me like family.

[Scarlet Mist]

I currently am still in a relationship with the same girl I was a year ago, and I've never been so happy in my whole life. Yeah I know I'm only 14 and I shouldn't take this too seriously, but her and I are just so happy to be together. It's like we have our own little world where the rest of the world has no effect on us. She's my world and I'm hers, and I know this sounds like something out of a fantasy, and some days I wake up and wonder if it is, but then I see her and I realize it's more than real. Being the good Christians we both are we won't take the physical part too far. We don't have the kind of money it takes to take care of a child. Her parents and my parents get along well, and her parents treat me like family.


Awwwwwwwwwwww how sweet. That was the kind of childhood I wanted. Of course, it never happened. I'm happy for you Neonxburst. I've had 1 girlfriend in my life. It lasted less than 3 months, because I had to leave for college, so we broke off. Of course, once we broke off, she started acting weird. We're still friends, and she's still weird.

I'm still searching.

[Falcon]

I currently am still in a relationship with the same girl I was a year ago, and I've never been so happy in my whole life. Yeah I know I'm only 14 and I shouldn't take this too seriously, but her and I are just so happy to be together. It's like we have our own little world where the rest of the world has no effect on us. She's my world and I'm hers, and I know this sounds like something out of a fantasy, and some days I wake up and wonder if it is, but then I see her and I realize it's more than real. Being the good Christians we both are we won't take the physical part too far. We don't have the kind of money it takes to take care of a child. Her parents and my parents get along well, and her parents treat me like family.

It doesn't sound stupid me and my girlfriend are the same I've been going out with her since we were 15 and we are truly happy o were 17, 18 next year. :Angel:

[thebigevil2803]

I NOW. I LOVE YOU BEX :love:

[NeonxBurst]

Well atleast my relationship doesn't sound stupid to some people! Although I could do without people constantly thinkin just because we've dated for a year we've had sex!

[Falcon]

NeonxBurst, there just jeoulous, let them fantasis about what they want.

[shotokanwarrior]

I'm not sure if I would call it love but I really fancy a guy who used to go to my dojo, haven't seen him for a while though. My friend says he's coming back though so there's still hope.

[axelb]

I honestly didn't ever think I'd be in the relationship I'm in now.

For the first time I feel I want to be with this person the rest of my life.
She understands me better than anyone :)
She's so gorgeous also :D and all mine! :cool:

[Kwajman]

BAH HUMBUG! Love sucks.

[Mrs Owt]

BAH HUMBUG! Love sucks.
We love you Kwaj!!!:love:

*smothers Kwaj with warm feelings and hugs - and adds cookies for good measure*

[NeonxBurst]

NeonxBurst, there just jeoulous, let them fantasis about what they want.
Yeah, I know:D

And Kwaj cheer up Love aint all that bad, but it can be annoying sometimes. Whew like the first time I had to meet her parents.*whipes sweat off* Man I walked in and her dad was sittin on the couch, and he's like you don't need to be so tense I won't kick your ass yet. I was like thanks, that's reassuring, then her bro walked in, and I still don't get along with him.

[booksie_girl]

BAH HUMBUG! Love sucks.
Is it just me, or doesn't Kwaj like this thread? :p

[NeonxBurst]

Booksie it aint just you.

[Battle Sword]

Salute.~~yes I am. what do I do when hes reallllly grumpy & never calls me? Someday, Somewhere, Somehow. He will c me & say thats the one 4 me. He will make it happen, not me.Cuz Friends stick together no matter what.

[AZeitung]

I've been in love with the same guy but did not have him as my own. I have feelings for him since I was 11 and till now, he don't know that yet. He has a long-time girlfriend and they are going steady and serious about their relationship. He even mentioned that he is going to marry her...sob..sob..sob.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Days turns to months,
Years turns to a century,
We've went different paths,
But forever in my heart, you will always be.

I love YOU very Much. :(

I know just how you feel - well except for the in love with a *guy* part - but other than that, similar.

[firesprite]

Yeah, but I didn't do anything, and now they've left the country though.... :cry: :bang:

[shotokanwarrior]

*sings* We love you Kwaj-man, weeeee dooooooooo.........sorry guys, that was a pathetic attempt at a bit of melodramatism.

[neryo_tkd]

*sings* We love you Kwaj-man, weeeee dooooooooo.........sorry guys, that was a pathetic attempt at a bit of melodramatism.


hahahahahaha i don't know if that helped Kwaj :D :D :D

[Kwajman]

Well, its a reeeeeeealy long story. But in a nutshell, my wife left me for a guy with a lo-o-o-ot of money. Left kids with me. Whoo hoo, I can live with that. Then sued for custody since I didn't make much money. Since I lost the kids, I lost my house, then my dog, and she's still a, uh, not a nice person. It goes downhill from there.

I don't know why anyone would think I'm against relationships or anything. :D

Just cause I haven't been on a date now in what, 2 years????? Oh well, meditation is good for the soul. Or so I've been told. I appreciate everyones attempts to cheer me up, they do by the way.

*****GROUP HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGG*****

[Mrs Owt]

Well, its a reeeeeeealy long story. But in a nutshell, my wife left me for a guy with a lo-o-o-ot of money. Left kids with me. Whoo hoo, I can live with that. Then sued for custody since I didn't make much money. Since I lost the kids, I lost my house, then my dog, and she's still a, uh, not a nice person. It goes downhill from there.

I don't know why anyone would think I'm against relationships or anything. :D

Just cause I haven't been on a date now in what, 2 years????? Oh well, meditation is good for the soul. Or so I've been told. I appreciate everyones attempts to cheer me up, they do by the way.

*****GROUP HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGG*****
***HUG*** right back at 'ya!

[Brad Ellin]

I used to feel the same way as you Kwaj. Ex left me for my (ex)best freind, best man at wedding, godfather of oldest daughter. She got custody of kids, the car and everything in house. I got clothes on my back and my books. Those that she didn't throw away. I went for 4 years (almost 4 1/2) without dating. None. A few female friends. None of them interested in me as anything but a brother figure.

Then, half way around the globe I met my wife.

Things happen for a reason. We may not know what it is at the time, but there is a reason. And I think love is one of the answers.

[booksie_girl]

*****GROUP HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGG***** {{{HUG}}}}

I think your penguin is cute Bill :love:

[shotokanwarrior]

Well, its a reeeeeeealy long story. But in a nutshell, my wife left me for a guy with a lo-o-o-ot of money. Left kids with me. Whoo hoo, I can live with that. Then sued for custody since I didn't make much money. Since I lost the kids, I lost my house, then my dog, and she's still a, uh, not a nice person. It goes downhill from there.

You poor devil *compassionate bear hug*

[glenchuy]

I'll be celebrating 16 years of marriage with him in August. We've been together since I was 15 and I wouldn't trade a day with him for anything. I have only grown to appreciate him more and more for the real, sincere, honest, honourable man that he is.

*worships* :bow:

i married the wrong girl though... :(

[Greg-VT]

Ex left me for my (ex)best freind, best man at wedding, godfather of oldest daughter. She got custody of kids, the car and everything in house. I got clothes on my back and my books.
Thats disgusting. How on earth do things turn out that way :(

[NeonxBurst]

Judges sympathize with women too much.... That's how.

[Kwajman]

In my case, the judge was a classmate and golfing buddy of my wifes lawyer. Who was also the guy she left me for. Hows that for a 3100th post? Bwahahahahahaha

[Mrs Owt]

In my case, the judge was a classmate and golfing buddy of my wifes lawyer. Who was also the guy she left me for. Hows that for a 3100th post? BwahahahahahahaIsn't that a conflict of interest? He should have removed himself from the case - incredibly unethical!!!

[Peter.san]

I've been in love with the same girl for over a year now, but I can't get her, and she belongs to someone else now - trying to get her out of my head.

[NeonxBurst]

Peter that'll take a long while, but I give you much hope.

[Kwajman]

Join me on my pirate ship. Pirates don't fall in love...... :eek:

[NeonxBurst]

Ever seen pirates of the carribean kwaj?:D

[slideyfoot]

I'm in the current (going by the poll so far) majority in that I am in love right now, with my gf of almost 4 years. :)

[Kwajman]

Ever seen pirates of the carribean kwaj?:D

Nah, Orlando Blooms not really a pirate, just a swordsmith. We pirates just fall in lust.

Lets see how long this takes.....1,2,3,....

I do however, love my new puppy..........4,5.....

[AZeitung]

I've been in love with the same girl for over a year now, but I can't get her, and she belongs to someone else now - trying to get her out of my head.

Ah, don't worry. You'll stop thinking about her all the time. . . if you don't see her for a couple of years :o .

[Peter.san]

^ Hehe, you're probably right... I saw her even yesterday, and I fear she'll be there for quite a long while to come :/ but that's not that big a problem.. compared to what others are writing here! I'm glad I'm still 16 =P

[Kwajman]

Bah, love sucks. :)

[Mrs Owt]

Bah, love sucks. :)
Kwajii. once again:

WE LOVE YOU!!!:love: :love:

[Kwajman]

Awwwww, another hug! :D

[booksie_girl]

Awwwww, another hug! :D
Am I the only person starting to think that Kwaj likes this thread beacause all of the attention he's managing to get? All of the hugs?

[gedhab]

Cyber attention and cyber hugs isn't in my opinion an incentive to post on a thread! :D :eek:

[Athleng Nordic]

I love my wife and daughter more than life itself. Whoa be it to whomever threatens them in my presence.

[Sweet Canuck]

I fell in love with an angel. I didn't realize that we were in love until one day we sat on beach, and it hit me....literally!

Realize that I have been through two long and serious relationships before and could never say "I love you". I was brutally honest about not being in love because I didn't know what it is.

I'm actually saving up at the moment for a ring. If I could impose on your thoughts, I'm in a rut trying to think of how I'm going to propose. It'll likely be about six months before I can pop the question, and I am looking for ideas.

Suggestions are welcome. I apologize if I am duplicating an old thread, but I am new to MAP, and still finding all of the gears.

[shotokanwarrior]

Come on, Kwajman, cheer up...don't let your ex wife win by being steeped in misery.

*gives him another bear hug*

Suggestions are welcome

Just pop it straight out, that's what I'd do if it was my 'love interest' *goes into reverie about him*

[Kwajman]

Well I sure appreciate all the hugs and stuff. Shoot, I'm getting more hugs than when I was married!! :)

[call_me_rizki]

i might can said "i awe be in love.." :love: :p :love:
there just too many gals in my live.. may can be said that there is e new gals come into my live every year..!! :cool:
but true love.... :eek: yups i've been inlove with a special gals and i'm still but appearently that she's not loveng me anymore :eek: :bang: :cry: :bang:
well might she is just not created for me.. even when i love her so.. dont sure if i can feel this anymore..
but isn't it said that "love comes to those who believe it.." and "love will find you if you try" well i'll find my love of my live!! :cool:

[gemtkd]

Never have, though thought I was! Seeing someone knoe though so fingers crossed :love:

[Sgt_Major]

I am. My wife and daughter. Like Nordic, woe betide any who try to harm them, in my presence or out of it!

[Cougar_v203]

I was but then I decided to become a loner.
and I don't regret becoming one.

[vicjudofreak]

I voted no a few months ago, when the thread started, but now I am and just wanted to say so! :love:

Victoria

[tel]

got a great girlfriend :D ,tho she does not like martial arts :bang: . doh!!!

[Eero]

Finally after three lonely years I am in love again. I don't have that girl yet, but still it's always great to have strong feelings towards a person. Being in love is the best thing there is. :love:

[NaughtyKnight]

I was once in love. Not a smart idea. I'd like to ask the ladies on MAP, why women enjoy playing with our minds.

Kwaj, ive got a solution for you. Its called a petrol bomb through her window. :Angel:

[Shantari]

been in love three times, had my heart broken 3 times, strike out

[NaughtyKnight]

Dont worry man, you'll get back in there.

[kenpoguy]

I have before, though I feel I have gotten over it. From the time I was i'd say around 12 I knew a girl. For the five years or so after we were real great friends, and very close. We'd often go to movies and talk on the phone and just hang out. Then soon after we started dating, and I could really feel something special for her. She was crazy about me as well, at first however, and i still fell is to this day a bit. She was of asian descent and I was american. Being the 90s the whole prejudice thing was what I had hoped was over. I always suspected my race had to do ith our breaking up, as her parents were extremly overprotective. Always chaperoning and almost even spying on us. One summer she just sort of started ignoring me. I even remember on my birthday one year when i was in high school, she dropped a gift off in my locker but never said happy birthday,c alled me, met me at lunch, or made any remark at all to me. It was only when i ran into her at the end of the day she real breify said happy birthday and left. That summer she rarely talked at all to me. I did however call everyday trying to find out what was going on little by little. Though I never did, we did break it off. I know it sounds like a wussy sub story im sure, but it really hurt the worst kind of hurt someone could feel. Especialy when I found out she was at the same time most likely going out with another guy...of asian descent. But like they say, "only love can break a heart, and only love can mend one again"

[Shantari]

I have before, though I feel I have gotten over it. From the time I was i'd say around 12 I knew a girl. For the five years or so after we were real great friends, and very close. We'd often go to movies and talk on the phone and just hang out. Then soon after we started dating, and I could really feel something special for her. She was crazy about me as well, at first however, and i still fell is to this day a bit. She was of asian descent and I was american. Being the 90s the whole prejudice thing was what I had hoped was over. I always suspected my race had to do ith our breaking up, as her parents were extremly overprotective. Always chaperoning and almost even spying on us. One summer she just sort of started ignoring me. I even remember on my birthday one year when i was in high school, she dropped a gift off in my locker but never said happy birthday,c alled me, met me at lunch, or made any remark at all to me. It was only when i ran into her at the end of the day she real breify said happy birthday and left. That summer she rarely talked at all to me. I did however call everyday trying to find out what was going on little by little. Though I never did, we did break it off. I know it sounds like a wussy sub story im sure, but it really hurt the worst kind of hurt someone could feel. Especialy when I found out she was at the same time most likely going out with another guy...of asian descent. But like they say, "only love can break a heart, and only love can mend one again"
I know how you feel man, the only way to feel better is to find love somewhere else. I'm still looking but i've had some fun on the way. Think of your past relationship as a basket, all the things you learned are in it, and will be carried on for the rest of your life, u just need to add things to that basket untill its complete

[NaughtyKnight]

Love is just a feeling. Treat it as such.

Everyone finds someone that loves them in the end. There is 6billion people on this Earth, you will get some love somewhere.

[Kwajman]

Love is just a feeling, yes...

but so is stubbing your toe in the middle of the night...

[Kinjiro Tsukasa]

Everyone finds someone that loves them in the end. There is 6billion people on this Earth, you will get some love somewhere.
And if not, there are plenty of cats and dogs in the animal shelters who will love you.

[NaughtyKnight]

I bought my fav girl the best present for valentines day. A box of smachos :D.

My girl friend was jealous.

[gemtkd]

I am now :love: :Angel: :love:

[ThaiMantis]

been in love three times, had my heart broken 3 times, strike out

I'm with you, i.e. two times out of two so far, but still open minded..

[Kwajman]

I was told that I say love sucks too often, so I'll say that love bites... :cry:

[NaughtyKnight]

I was told that I say love sucks too often, so I'll say that love bites... :cry:

And I would agree with you. :cry:

Broke up with my girlfriend last night. :cry: It wasn't love but still. :cry:

[Xue Fang]

Yes, once, about three years ago. Seems like it was decades ago though. Problem was I fell for the wrong person. Really hard. I asked them to marry me, I even had a ring. Jerk only wanted me for my face and my body, cheated on me, and then toyed with me repeatedly in the aftermath whilst I was clinically depressed and nearly drove me insane and to suicide. I'm hesitant to reveal it all here, but needless to say that for two agonisingly long years I was stuck in a hellish world of nightmares and I could barely distinguish between the real world and that in my head, both were torturous.

After an experience like that, I think it would be understandable if I said I have absolutely no desire to ever fall in love again...

But I can't, I just can't. No matter how much it hurts, I can never seem to close myself off, shut myself away from love. It's not in my character. That's not who I am. As much as I sometimes want to, I can't bring myself to be so bitter or so cold and give up on love. It's incredibly painful for me, but love is so core to my life philosophies and so much a part of my soul that I have to say yes, I do have hope for love.

[ladystar]

Hugs, everyone, :)

Yes, this big "R" relationship can hurt, I know. :cry: :bang:

I kept at it for many years, and am sad about some, yet very thankful for all. Each man I shared life with, taught me so much about who I am, how I am, expanded my thoughts, and more..until I was ready to really sustain a beautiful relationship with someone who truly was my perfect partner. Not that even this relationship was easy! John and I had been friends for over 20 years, before we both realized how right we were, together. :Angel: Seems some things are well worth the wait... :o

John passed away a few yeaers ago..and yes, I still miss him very much. I guess what I'm saying here, is, keep going, keep living, keep loving...it's a road well worth taking.

As far as "love is just a feeling," yes, it's that, and more. There's a time when the loving feeling drains, and suddenly that thing that was sooooo cute suddenly grates on your nerves..it's at that point that we either choose to love this person, or not. I find it well worth the effort to choose to love...

And, please allow me to also mention..while there are some women who like to play with guys's minds (and some guys who do the same), most do not..I'm thinking we women just think in different ways than you guys do. As confusing as you may find our ways, trust me, we're confused by y'all, too!

I'll keep y'all in my prayers..

Blessings... luv, Jess :love:

[Xue Fang]

Hugs, everyone, :)

Yes, this big "R" relationship can hurt, I know. :cry: :bang:

I kept at it for many years, and am sad about some, yet very thankful for all. Each man I shared life with, taught me so much about who I am, how I am, expanded my thoughts, and more..until I was ready to really sustain a beautiful relationship with someone who truly was my perfect partner. Not that even this relationship was easy! John and I had been friends for over 20 years, before we both realized how right we were, together. :Angel: Seems some things are well worth the wait... :o

John passed away a few yeaers ago..and yes, I still miss him very much. I guess what I'm saying here, is, keep going, keep living, keep loving...it's a road well worth taking.

As far as "love is just a feeling," yes, it's that, and more. There's a time when the loving feeling drains, and suddenly that thing that was sooooo cute suddenly grates on your nerves..it's at that point that we either choose to love this person, or not. I find it well worth the effort to choose to love...

And, please allow me to also mention..while there are some women who like to play with guys's minds (and some guys who do the same), most do not..I'm thinking we women just think in different ways than you guys do. As confusing as you may find our ways, trust me, we're confused by y'all, too!

I'll keep y'all in my prayers..

Blessings... luv, Jess :love:

Amen to that!

I'm horrified when people tell stories of having had mind games being played on them, either by men or women. The thought of that just sickens me and angers me. It's not right to play with people's emotions, it's the easiest and most devastating way to destroy someone. I could NEVER, EVER contemplate toying with someone like that and jerking them around. I always mean what I say.

[Kwajman]

Well, I know that breaking up with someone is hard, for any reason. I loved and had her ripped from my life and soul. There is no level of low that describes how much I hurt, how much I wished I had died with her. But I took a chance and loved again, probably for the wrong reason, and had another part of my life torn up and stomped on. I think that while I'm quite lonely, the risk is too great. Maybe when I'm old and with nothing to lose I suppose I might be open to falling in love again. For now I'll take my puppy who loves me for anything and everything and kisses my face and falls asleep on my lap.

[NaughtyKnight]

Yes, once, about three years ago. Seems like it was decades ago though. Problem was I fell for the wrong person. Really hard. I asked them to marry me, I even had a ring. Jerk only wanted me for my face and my body, cheated on me, and then toyed with me repeatedly in the aftermath whilst I was clinically depressed and nearly drove me insane and to suicide. I'm hesitant to reveal it all here, but needless to say that for two agonisingly long years I was stuck in a hellish world of nightmares and I could barely distinguish between the real world and that in my head, both were torturous.

After an experience like that, I think it would be understandable if I said I have absolutely no desire to ever fall in love again...

But I can't, I just can't. No matter how much it hurts, I can never seem to close myself off, shut myself away from love. It's not in my character. That's not who I am. As much as I sometimes want to, I can't bring myself to be so bitter or so cold and give up on love. It's incredibly painful for me, but love is so core to my life philosophies and so much a part of my soul that I have to say yes, I do have hope for love.


:cry: What a [enter swearing}. Im so sorry. Dont worry, the next guy you meet will treat you like the princess you deserve to be.

If not, i'll damn well fly to the Uk and take up that role myself. ;) :D

[Xue Fang]

:cry: What a [enter swearing}.

Yeah. Really, really the wrong guy. I think on this particular occasion I'm justified in saying I hope he [enter swear word here] burns in hell. :woo: :mad: :yeleyes: Screwed me up really badly. Clinical depression, melancholia, affective personality disorder, avoidant personality disorder, post-traumatic stress syndrome, anorexia nervosa... not to mention a drinking problem, self-mutilation, and a suicide attempt. I won't go into details though. I'm surprised I still have any hope for love left.

Im so sorry. Dont worry, the next guy you meet will treat you like the princess you deserve to be.

[blushes] Yes. I really hope he does. :o :love:

If not, i'll damn well fly to the Uk and take up that role myself. ;) :D

Heh heh heh. :o :) :D Well... if it doesn't work out, you're more than welcome to. Thank you, no one's ever called me a princess before. :o :)

[NaughtyKnight]

Thank you, no one's ever called me a princess before.

:eek: Well its about bloody time init sweet heart. :love:

Dont worry. Not all us men are {commence swearing}. :D

[mr_vodka]

Love makes the World goes 'round... :love:

I have been in love, in matter of fact I am in love now... I love my wife and my son whose about to be born (grammar?) in the first week of March :love:

[NaughtyKnight]

Love makes the World goes 'round... :love:

I have been in love, in matter of fact I am in love now... I love my wife and my son whose about to be born (grammar?) in the first week of March :love:

Congrats :)

[Xue Fang]

:bang: :woo: :mad: :mad: :mad: :yeleyes: I change my mind. I hate love and I never want to fall in love again. :mad: :( :cry:

[mr_vodka]

:bang: :woo: :mad: :mad: :mad: :yeleyes: I change my mind. I hate love and I never want to fall in love again. :mad: :( :cry:

Don't you give up on love! NEVER give up on love. Love gives a meaning to life. I know that I won't convince you and I won't try to do so. But if you want, I'm here for you. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk about whatever depresses you. I will be more than glad to help you out if I can.

[ladystar]

:bang: :woo: :mad: :mad: :mad: :yeleyes: I change my mind. I hate love and I never want to fall in love again. :mad: :( :cry:
Hugs, Xue Fang, :love:

I've been there, too. Please pm me, if you'd like.

It took me many years, too many tears, :cry: to realize that love isn't something I give or receive..it's something that I am! :Angel:

Also, in those years, I somewhere realized that I was trying to work out my own deep hurts in relationships.

I just wanna hug you, Xue Fang. I wish I could wave a wand, and get all your hurt to go away...please, don't give up on yourself! You're too precious, and nobody sees this beautiful world the way you do...

Blessings... luv, Jessie

[_Jay_]

head over hills and still falling................

[NaughtyKnight]

Who needs a heart, when a heart can be broken

[tekkengod]

:bang: :woo: :mad: :mad: :mad: :yeleyes: I change my mind. I hate love and I never want to fall in love again. :mad: :( :cry:

i agree with you. so much sadness anger and depression, its not worth it. The good never out weight the bad, and you'll always get the worst side of it in the end. I hate love.

[thepunisher]

I just wanted to find out, how many mapers have actually been in love, i don't mean thinking you are in love but actually loved somone truely ?
..was also the one that cheated on me. So my first real love was a hurtful experience in the end. Although I can imagine lots will tell me now that they have had cheating experiences...Just, even after all this time, can't figure out why she did this to me. We were happy for over a year so she had no real reason to cheat.

[tekkengod]

..was also the one that cheated on me. So my first real love was a hurtful experience in the end. Although I can imagine lots will tell me now that they have had cheating experiences...Just, even after all this time, can't figure out why she did this to me. We were happy for over a year so she had no real reason to cheat.

I know what you mean. it often appears to have no reason, more often than not it dosen't. But it still has the same effect reguardless of the reasons.

[faster than you]

i agree with you. so much sadness anger and depression, its not worth it. The good never out weight the bad, and you'll always get the worst side of it in the end. I hate love.
you must have never truely loved.

[NaughtyKnight]

I just pick women up at clubs now and take them home, Im over dating for awhile, WAY TOO much maintenance.

[tekkengod]

I just pick women up at clubs now and take them home, Im over dating for awhile, WAY TOO much maintenance.

thats the way it should be done.

[davethekodiak]

when your ten month old baby girl clings to you cause she heard a scary noise and you realize that she loves you no matter how much money you make or your past or missing the first nine months of her life, you have no choice but to fall in love :)

[NaughtyKnight]

when your ten month old baby girl clings to you cause she heard a scary noise and you realize that she loves you no matter how much money you make or your past or missing the first nine months of her life, you have no choice but to fall in love :)

Ah that is a love that last forever.

Maybe we should all have kids and stay single, or better yet tom cats for life :D

[thepunisher]

I know what you mean. it often appears to have no reason, more often than not it dosen't. But it still has the same effect reguardless of the reasons.

...was someone I had briefly met in the first three months we were dating. He had the audacity to call me a "Loser" and "Not worth it" (he told this to my ex) after meeting me for exactly 3 hrs. Guess she liked his gutsy move and later on, instead of trying to solve the problems she had with me, moved on to him instead. To be honest, it was the most painful experience ever for me and, having a katana in my place at that time,I did actually think about suicide. But....then I realized that she wasn't worth it...loosing my life over. And although I have problems finding love now (read my journal, if you want)I hope my next experience of love will be better than that one.

regards,

Christian

[thepunisher]

I'll be celebrating 16 years of marriage with him in August. We've been together since I was 15 and I wouldn't trade a day with him for anything. I have only grown to appreciate him more and more for the real, sincere, honest, honourable man that he is.

Glad to hear someone has luck what concerns love. By the way, what is that MAP trophy for that you have displayed in your trophy case on your profile ? I have seen this a couple of times now and just wondering how you can get something like that ?

regards,

Christian

[Kwajman]

Love sucks and isn't worth the trouble.

[tekkengod]

...was someone I had briefly met in the first three months we were dating. He had the audacity to call me a "Loser" and "Not worth it" (he told this to my ex) after meeting me for exactly 3 hrs. Guess she liked his gutsy move and later on, instead of trying to solve the problems she had with me, moved on to him instead. To be honest, it was the most painful experience ever for me and, having a katana in my place at that time,I did actually think about suicide. But....then I realized that she wasn't worth it...loosing my life over. And although I have problems finding love now (read my journal, if you want)I hope my next experience of love will be better than that one.

regards,

Christian

everyone thinks about suicide after an event like that, me, suicidal thoughts came later. the first thoughts were to kill the both of them. but luckily it took every ounce of self control i had but they are both still alive. Its the worst experiance you can ever have, but you know that. i wasn't going to waste my life on a girl. neither should you. if i were you i'd stop looking for love for a while and try dating, or be a tang troll for a bit, you may feel bad at the end of the day, but casual sex is always a pain killer.

i've been there. if you need to talk, feel free to PM me.

[thepunisher]

Its the worst experiance you can ever have, but you know that. i wasn't going to waste my life on a girl. neither should you. if i were you i'd stop looking for love for a while and try dating, or be a tang troll for a bit, you may feel bad at the end of the day, but casual sex is always a pain killer. i've been there. if you need to talk, feel free to PM me.

Yes, it is the worst experience anybody can have..you put your complete trust and love into that person and then they decide to cheat on you. Sometimes it makes you wonder what you were worth to that person if they have the guts to cheat on you. Luckily for me we were only dating for a bit more than a year, I don't want to imagine what it feels like for someone that gets cheated on after 10 years of marriage or 15 years of a relationship. To be honest, what concerns my ex, I do sometimes wish I wasn't the lonely one now looking for love while she is 'happily' married but that it would be the other way around..because I think she deserves it as cruel as this may sound.

By the way, just send you a PM.

[tekkengod]

no. thats not cruel, they do deserve it, don't worry, the divorce rate is at an all time high of like 80% and 75% of all men cheat in marrige. hers is coming ,trust me.

[Dancing Shadow]

My answer was "yes". I have definetely been in love.
I had a three year relationship with a man who was my soulmate. Unfortunately I lost him 13 months ago to a long-term illness.

There were many days when I simply did not feel that I had the strength to go on without him. Although I still miss him terribly, I am now only greatful for the time that we had together. Knowing him made me a better person, and I still carry him in my heart.
Because of the closeness we had, I know that I have the ability to love someone completely. And someday, I know that I'll love again. :)

[hunter_kaval]

Love sucks and isn't worth the trouble.

Maybe but I still have to try and find out for myself and I read what you said you have been through I know that I have little knowledge or experience of love. But have you really given up? I am not having a go at you but you seem like a nice person surely someone out there is ment for you, in the end its your life so good luck with what ever you do. :Angel:

[GrappleorWrestle]

Yes, I am in love...I will admit it! Ha, never would have thought I would say that....But ohh well. But now I have a question along the lines of being in love.....Ok say you have been dating this girl for three months and you are talking to her and its a serious talk and then she says,"Sometimes I think about how much you like me and I think that you like me alot more than I like you and it scares me...but do not worry, I will always love you. No matter what." What would you all take that as?

[NaughtyKnight]

Love sucks and isn't worth the trouble.

Unless its the love of a nice single malt. :love:

[HearWa]

My biggest problem is I fall in love with every chick that gives me a second look. :S

[NaughtyKnight]

My biggest problem is I fall in love with every chick that gives me a second look. :S

Thats called lust my mate.

[HearWa]

Thats called lust my mate.
Same difference. ;)

[NaughtyKnight]

Same difference. ;)

LOL, your avatar is dancing to my music

[HearWa]

LOL, your avatar is dancing to my music
He tries to entertain his victims before KOing them. :cool:

[Wolf]

In love right now. Will be married to that love in just under two months!

[NaughtyKnight]

In love right now. Will be married to that love in just under two months!

Congrates mate, I'll have a beer for you. :D

[tekkengod]

and i'll go hopping around single banging all the other single women.
while you go down the isle, i'll be in the middle of a 3 way mutual favor! :D

congrats to you. good luck

[Kwajman]

Well congrats on the marriage, hope it lasts for you!

[tkdchick_is_hot]

:love: First one has to define love before knowing if we've experienced it.



just a personal opinion, but i dont think anyone could really define love. who is to tell any one what love is or how they should feel, ya know? one person can really believe in all there hearts that they are in love and somone could be looking at them like there crazy. :love: :love: :love: :love:

[tkdchick_is_hot]

if there was a "definition" of love then everyone would have to feel the same way in order to be in love, any different and it wouldnt be love. man i should be a philosopher....okay i know i probly totally spelled that wrong but you all get the point right??? :cool:

[Munen Mushin]

You betcha!! In love and married her and still in love after over 5 years of marrage. :love:

who else would put up with my crap!?!

[MDN]

Yes, I got rejected. Never again. Thanks for opening old wounds.

[tekkengod]

Yes, I got rejected. Never again. Thanks for opening old wounds.

no problem. :rolleyes:

wounds like that never really close, they fester and infect and kill you slowly over the course of the rest of your life. your probably already dead inside and just don't know it.

[Kwajman]

I know regarding love I've given up. Everyone I've loved except my sons has either died, left me, or broken my heart. Maybe I have died inside.....i don't know sometimes.

[Drunken Miss Ho]

I know what you mean Kwajman, my father's death left me with a hole inside that most of the time I'm not even really aware of, but it's always there. When I'm reminded of him I just feel an emptiness, that I know will never be filled with anything. I will have that "dead" part of me forever.

[tekkengod]

thats the thing people don't seem to understand. once your heart is broken, or someone dies, anything that would constitute the loss of love. you die inside, literally die. and you can't just fill the hole with whatever you can find, alcohol and causal sex are mild temporary sedatives for heartbreak, but for family death, i've found nothing that works.

[Hobbitlauncher]

agreed tekken, sounds like you've loved and lost before as well, to be specific I was in love twice, one broke my heart and one never made it to light, no idea where she lives now (kinda like Intan on page 1 was talking about)

[Drunken Miss Ho]

If you're fortunate you can find a new partner / spouse / gf / bf who can take the place of a previous relationship that ended badly, but nothing can fill the loss left by death. I can't just go and get a new dad, and I wouldn't want one even if I could. Learning how to handle that emptiness is hard, and I don't think it ever fully goes away. IMO, looking to things like alcohol only makes it worse in the long run.

[MDN]

no problem. :rolleyes:

wounds like that never really close, they fester and infect and kill you slowly over the course of the rest of your life. your probably already dead inside and just don't know it.


You're wrong.... I do know it. But I use all the rejections and failure as motivation to become better, stronger, and generally the man women want. :cool:

[Scarlet Mist]

You're wrong.... I do know it. But I use all the rejections and failure as motivation to become better, stronger, and generally the man women want. :cool:


"Women" don't all want the same thing. Do what you usually do, and become better for yourself. Let the rest work itself out. Handle your scandal like an old lady coming from the market.

[MDN]

I never said all women want the same thing. It's just that most women prefer a Jonny Depp over a John Goodman. You might say I am using statistics to my advantage.

[scottsummers]

"Yes, I got rejected. Never again. Thanks for opening old wounds."
- Actually, yeah you might get rejected again. Sometimes that is how life is. It may not be you. Be careful though because it is possible that you imagine people dont like you or see you a certain way and you will start acting out that role and it will become real. There are advantages too of not being in a relationship. You are free to do what you want and you are not tied to anyone yet. You are strong enough to not need someone to make your life worth living. You get smarter about how to treat or interact with the opposite sex from failing previously. ALso, you dont know what is going to happen with your future, you could date anyone whenever. Your options are open. You can focus on what you really like more. Maybe that doesn't sound too hopeful but it is kind of cool. The only way you will get over past hurts is if you forgive those people, whether you want to or not. You see you have to forgive someone for you to let go of that issue. Say you hold a grudge against someone and it really affects you day to day and hurts your chest and actually causes physical symptoms and stuff..... it doesnt affect the other person to hate them because they are not experiencing those feelings right now-you are so it is worse for you and you may as well forgive those people and let it go. Sometimes if you dont let things go they can stay with you your whole life and carry over into other dimensions and even ruin relationships and friendships. I think the healthiest thing you can do is to look what you gained from those situations you were in, even if they seemed bad. Even bad events can have great and important lessons. I have experience with this. I have had many friendships with girls who treated me bad and used me to get to their ex boyfriends or whatnot and for awhile it really hurt. I was so angry to and thought all girls were alike. I was also depressed because I didnt kiss a girl because I didnt have a girlfriend till I was 19. I couldnt understand it because i am a really nice guy and am pretty muscular and look decent(at least most girls say that). I thought relationships were meaningless and everything. Anyways I moved up to seattle and went to a really expensive christian school where i fell deeply in love with a girl although i told myself not to. Anyways, long story short her friends lied about me and I ended up getting kicked out of school because she thoguht I was going to kill her. I also got a restraining order for 2 years. I am very grateful though for the experience. I was heartbroken and thought about her every minute of the day for taht time and still think about her but I learned why things happened and why my viewpoints were flawed. Since I got kicked out of the dorms I had to live in an apartment on my own for a year and a half and it gave me time to get over some depression and anger issues and stuff like that. I also learned how to do things on my own. Also, if I didnt get kicked out of school I wouldnt have checked out this pentjak silat school i now attend and am leaving for class in about an hour. Instead of getting down on myself though now I realize that she wasnt good enough for me because if she was she wouldn't have believed lies her naive friends told about me that she never verified. Why would you want to date someone like that? Also, I looked back and saw that even if that stuff would have never happened and me and her would have gone into a relationship it wouldnt have lasted long because I had some internal issues to resolve. My situation helped me confront these and now I know I could have a mature relationship! There are so many other things too. Was I depressed? Heck ya! Its funny too because when you think your life is a certain way and you see your future a certain way and then you find out in reality it is all an illusion and nothing like your perception it really does something weird to you. Its like you lose your identity and start all over at who am i? In the same regard it sparks an excitement because you have changed and you can go any direction you like and be anyone you want to be.

[watto86]

I don't know. Possibly. Maybe I was in love. Maybe it was just infatuation. Nah. I don't think so. Pretty sure it was love. Was still a big waste though.

[scottsummers]

"Today science has provided, and continues to provide, more plausible answers to religious questions thereby eliminating the need for God to supply the answers. As knowledge advances God retreats. "
-I think that is your opinion having been through some hard times that you want to place the blame on God. I dont think God retreats for anything as he knows everything. Most "knowledge" you are talking about is statistics people make up that aren't even in the Bible about how old exactly the earth is or this or that but if you are really interested people are not a good model to look at, God is. One of the reasons I am a Christian is cause I believe in God, not just cause I don't wanna go to hell. I believe in God because he has talked to me and I have seen spirits all the time which first off lets me know there is a spiritual realm. I have had dreams about God talk to me through dreams and other things. The last time I clearly heard him speak was about a year ago. I was really hurt from this girl that got me kicked out of school who was my friend. I was so mad and I was driving home by myself on the weekend at like 2 in the morning. I just felt I would always be by myself and things just kept getting worse and my life was worthless. I was screaming in the car and yelling all these things about this girl. Usually if I am in a pissed off mood I might listen to hip hop or something liek that. Well i bought a new cd that wasnt hip hop and I was playing it. I got to this one song that was pretty slow and I skipped over it because I was really pissed off and in no mood to listen to a song like that at that time. I clearly heard the words " go back and listen to that song you just skipped over very closely". I was very confused. I kinda made a nervous laugh and i listened to it and here's what the lyrics were-All that she said was true
All that she said was true
Give her some time
Give her some space
All that she said was true

All that she meant was good
All that she meant was good
Give her some time
Give her some space
All that she meant was good

How you reacted was right
How you reacted was right
Give her some time
Give her some space
How you reacted was right

at this point I started crying kind of and realized that she had just acted according to the best she knew what was going on, she didnt purposely hurt me so I had no reason to be angry at her or hold a grudge against her. The song was really short so when it was done i was kinda like, wait!, what do i do with that? In addition to believing in God I believe that the Bible is the only thing that can help me understand what is going on in my life and no one or society or therapists can say otherwise. Once i started really reading the Bible I was like wow-this thing it says about love, that is absolutely true and ive never heard any columnists or expert explain this. To me, the Bible is more relevant for my life today especially than anything else. It shows me why people dont see the same things I do and why I go through what i go through. The sad thing to me though is that so many Christians dont know anything about how the world works or other religions. They are just closed minded and ignorant. Most cant even back up arguments and act morally superior to everyone instead of showing love or grace. I didnt become a Christian because I liked Christians, I became a Christian because I liked God and believed he was who he said he was.

[tekkengod]

"Today science has provided, and continues to provide, more plausible answers to religious questions thereby eliminating the need for God to supply the answers. As knowledge advances God retreats. "
-I think that is your opinion having been through some hard times that you want to place the blame on God. I dont think God retreats for anything as he knows everything. Most "knowledge" you are talking about is statistics people make up that aren't even in the Bible about how old exactly the earth is or this or that but if you are really interested people are not a good model to look at, God is. One of the reasons I am a Christian is cause I believe in God, not just cause I don't wanna go to hell. I believe in God because he has talked to me and I have seen spirits all the time which first off lets me know there is a spiritual realm.

and realized that she had just acted according to the best she knew what was going on, she didnt purposely hurt me so I had no reason to be angry at her or hold a grudge against her. The song was really short so when it was done i was kinda like, wait!, what do i do with that? In addition to believing in God I believe that the Bible is the only thing that can help me understand what is going on in my life and no one or society or therapists can say otherwise. Once i started really reading the Bible I was like wow-this thing it says about love, that is absolutely true and ive never heard any columnists or expert explain this. To me, the Bible is more relevant for my life today especially than anything else. It shows me why people dont see the same things I do and why I go through what i go through. The sad thing to me though is that so many Christians dont know anything about how the world works or other religions. They are just closed minded and ignorant. Most cant even back up arguments and act morally superior to everyone instead of showing love or grace. I didnt become a Christian because I liked Christians, I became a Christian because I liked God and believed he was who he said he was.

typical rant from a christian. everything has to equate to the invisable man who lives in the sky. that is my opinion because i am an educated, intelligent person, who hasn't been brainwashed by years of bible beatings as a child or by the evangical rants of pseudo spiritualists. what you said is half right. i do blame god for a few of my problems, and rightfully so. he dosen't answer prayers, so don't waste your time on them. trust me. clearly you were dillusional at the time because you were so upset, but because you search for the emotional crutch, as opposed to standing on your own, and admitting the obvious, you had to chalk it up to "god" and you are wrong,
"most knowladge" is factual evidence and false claims by the bible which are easily disproved. if you walked a mile in my shoes, you would not be so religious.

"Religion is nothing more than mans way of explaining that which he does not understand"-Rufus Shinra

if there was a god, he obviously dosen't have the testicular fortitude to show himself.
you will live in your fantasy world for the rest of your life, most likely, because you are weak. only the weak-minded and cowards run in search of a crutch and turn to something like religion to do so. you believe what you will. I however, have the strength to admit the obvious, my life is worthless, and things, aren't getting better. thats the reality. my life is a living hell hole, but you don't see me turning to invisable deities who have nothing better to do. thats my point, i've been, there, done that. asked for help. prayed, went to church, and do you know what i got in return? nothing. no help, no answers, not even words, signs. god has abandoned me. i have accepted the reality i am in. sounds like you became a christian becasue you couldn't do the same.

[faster than you]

you say god is nonexistent, but simulataneously say he has abandoned you. which one is it?
abandoning hope may be seen as the epitome of cowadrice, as one abandons hope because one is afraid to hope.

[tekkengod]

you say god is nonexistent, but simulataneously say he has abandoned you. which one is it?
abandoning hope may be seen as the epitome of cowadrice, as one abandons hope because one is afraid to hope.
if you scroll through that again. you'll also find "if he exists..." as well.
i don't see how abandoning hope can be constrewed as cowardice, its accepting reality, thats all. clining to a crutch and being afraid to accept the reality is cowardice. being afraid to let go fo the crutch and admit that there is no hope, there is no help. and that the life you know, is truly reality, that is cowardice.

[Hobbitlauncher]

tekken, while your beliefs are great to hold and whatnot (and note: im not even a christian) you really should hold back on calling people brainwashed, or weak, and when you imply that others are uneducated "I am an educated, intelligent person" you might want to check your spelling =) One thing I've learned, not even through my choice in spirituality is to never abandon hope. "when the door closes, a window opens" is always true.

[tekkengod]

One thing I've learned, not even through my choice in spirituality is to never abandon hope. "when the door closes, a window opens" is always true.

no. not always.

[MDN]

"Yes, I got rejected. Never again. Thanks for opening old wounds."
- Actually, yeah you might get rejected again. Sometimes that is how life is. It may not be you. Be careful though because it is possible that you imagine people dont like you or see you a certain way and you will start acting out that role and it will become real.

I vowwed to not let the past repeat itself. If I get rejected again, it won't be in the same way. And I'll continue to become a greater person.



There are advantages too of not being in a relationship. You are free to do what you want and you are not tied to anyone yet. You are strong enough to not need someone to make your life worth living. You get smarter about how to treat or interact with the opposite sex from failing previously.

I wouldn't have that drive if I didn't fail. I don't like failure and yet it's my past that drives me.


The only way you will get over past hurts is if you forgive those people, whether you want to or not. You see you have to forgive someone for you to let go of that issue. Say you hold a grudge against someone and it really affects you day to day and hurts your chest and actually causes physical symptoms and stuff..... it doesnt affect the other person to hate them because they are not experiencing those feelings right now-you are so it is worse for you and you may as well forgive those people and let it go. Sometimes if you dont let things go they can stay with you your whole life and carry over into other dimensions and even ruin relationships and friendships. I think the healthiest thing you can do is to look what you gained from those situations you were in, even if they seemed bad. Even bad events can have great and important lessons. I have experience with this.


And what if that person I hold a grudge against is myself? What then? If I forgive myself then I will only be letting the past repeat itself. I must continue to grow strong, inspite of my past, inspite of my shyness and inspite of my depression that I was born with. This mourning I woke up and told myself I am weak.


Its funny too because when you think your life is a certain way and you see your future a certain way and then you find out in reality it is all an illusion and nothing like your perception it really does something weird to you. Its like you lose your identity and start all over at who am i? In the same regard it sparks an excitement because you have changed and you can go any direction you like and be anyone you want to be.


I see what you're saying but it is because I am shedding myself of my identity, of illusions, that I can go where I want. Nobody wants the lazy shy nice guy, so I am trying to be a hardworking, charismatic, joker. I am not insane so being myself hasn't worked and I am going to change that.

[faster than you]

if you scroll through that again. you'll also find "if he exists..." as well.
i don't see how abandoning hope can be constrewed as cowardice, its accepting reality, thats all. clining to a crutch and being afraid to accept the reality is cowardice. being afraid to let go fo the crutch and admit that there is no hope, there is no help. and that the life you know, is truly reality, that is cowardice.
you have denied god's existance in other posts. an even if you cling to a sort of dubiousness regarding god, then how can you be sure he has abandoned you--you can't. if you like living in a jaded reality then i suppose that's your choice. i personally like to live in a world in which there is hope. hope leads to plans which lead to actions which lead to successes.
shunning hope is like not asking a pretty girl out because you are afraid of rejection. you can't win if you don't gamble.

[MDN]

Can we keep on topic? All this arguing about God has nothing to do with the topic. I don't know who started the argument, but I'd (and others) like it if someone stepped up to be the bigger person and put a stop to it.

[tekkengod]

shunning hope is like not asking a pretty girl out because you are afraid of rejection. you can't win if you don't gamble.

MDN, we were swaying towards a philosophical argument, not directly god, but i agree, lets get this back on track, i'll say this though.

Faster than you, good point. but there is a diffrence between shunning what you think is hopeful and abandoning what you know will fail you ever time.

[tekkengod]

This mourning I woke up and told myself I am weak.


atleast you have the ability to admit it, now you can grow stronger.

[scottsummers]

What I am trying to explain to you is that I am a normal person like you and God made himself known to me. I didnt just randomly become a Christian because I thought Christians were cool. No, most of them rip off secular music, some are very predjudiced, most are very closed minded, and almost all of the Christians I have met play this game even with each other-"I am better than you or more Christian than you". Its crap. The Bible doesnt talk anything about acting like that. Everything does have to pertain to the invisible man in heaven because thats who I am talking about. No, i didnt have years of Bible beating either. My parents were Christians who really pushed me to become one and I got mad at them for it. Really mad. I did though want to accept Jesus so I made it clear in my mind that it was my choice and not theirs because I felt that it was my business between me and God. Did I say anything about pseudo spiritualists? I agree with you about that. A lot of people are absolutely insane and you have to question everything you hear. Everything. I live in Seattle and lots of people join cults here because they want to be a part of something or they need direction in their lives so they go to other people who know just as little as they do although they claim they are a guru. There is one guy in Seattle who claims to be a reincarnated God and actually has a small following. YOu would think if he was a reincarnated God then he would make better pay than he does. God does answer prayers, I guarantee you. Sometimes it is your attitude that separates you from him and closes up that communication wall. I am not doing the best right now myself. I am struggling with my faith (not believing in God) but believing the miraculous things I know he can do. I just got out of one of the most hurtful things of my life after many other hurtful things and I let it be. I didnt scream and complain although I used to I just realize that hey you cant control everything in your life. God showed me how much I have matured in the last 2 years without even really having anyone to help me. He did this by isolating me and I havent really had any friends for awhile. Its ok though because people dont know what the heck i am talking about anyways. I moved 2000 miles away from my parents and my dog that I had since I was 9 just died in addition to one of my best friends got his brains smashed apart into a telephone pole and I lost the best girl I had ever met in my life who I thought about every day, every minute of the day, for 2 years. So, I have had difficult times too. But you know what? I have realized so many things that I would have never learned if some of these things didnt happen. For one, I wasnt ready to have a relationship with that girl even if things worked out because I carried hurt and bitterness towards women up to that point even though I didnt show it and am a really great guy it was inside and would have come out some way. So now if I get in a relationship I will know what to do and not take it for granted. Also, i learned how to rely on God and not people or relationships as crutches. You can never put all your hope in people. They will always fail you. God wont. He is there no matter what you do or how deep you are. I also realized i couldnt count on myself because I was getting delusional and just imagined all these things people were thinking about me and I found out none of it was true, it was all implanted into my head and it ruined my best friendships. Now I always question the thoughts that come into my head and dont assume they are true without checking with that person or waiting till they blow up. You said claims by the Bible are easily disproved? Like what? They dont really talk about science or the age of the earth in the Bible. It talks about things like Jesus,love, relationships, everyday life, spiritual(unseen forces) warfare, healing, and prayer. It talks about some really key issues that therapists dont really understand like why things happen and people who went through them. The Bible isnt really a nice sweet fairytale. There are people who get raped, their heads chopped off, parents who eat their babies, etc. You know why it talks about stuff like that? Its because that is real. Certain things tended to happen more earlier in history due to numerous reasons. I have heard the thing all the time about if you walked a mile in my shoes.............everyone says it. YOu know what? A lot of people go through very, very hard stuff. You just have to look outside of yourself. That is kind of what you are not doing. I am not insulting you, I want to make that clear. I am not here to insult you and think that your viewpoints are valid and know many people who feel the same. If you notice outside yourself and study you will find that many people have hard lives and dont even talk about them. One thing that is bad about not looking outside yourself is that it creates an invisible barrier around you that is nonverbal and people can sense it. It can make people afraid of you, show that you dont want to be talked to, or just mess up your image in general. You have a quote about religion is for people who don't understand. You are right. I dont know everything about God, I dont even know everything about my friends or parents........and God has a lot more dimension to him. I do understand most of what I read in the Bible and it is there as a blueprint for certain things and to give information, not to confuse. That would be pointless to read something that confused you or distracted you or didnt get anything from it. Maybe God shows himself all the time and you just need to pay more attention and be open to believe. I think its kind of funny to think that you would believe some guy up in the sky would just start saying um, hey....... Why is that funny? Because he looks at humans and when he communicates with us he its like using baby talk so we can understand. He can talk to you in any way he wants whether it is out loud, from a billboard, a living thing, Japanese, English, your car dying, anything. That doesnt mean those events are God but he can do anything. I once prayed that I would get an opportunity to apologize for something that I did to someone. First, he told me exactly what phrase to say to them and told me to practice it because I would get the chance to say it. After about a week I said ok, Im ready how bout tomorrow? So the next day I was sure I would see this girl. I felt it so strongly. I didnt see her after I headed home from school and figured I just had given up my hopes. Then that night I went to the grocery store and I saw her and said the phrase. This showed me that God could care less about my schedule or how hard it is to do what time of the day. He can do anything he wants, anytime. Not only did I see her and say the phrase but she was very appreciative and said thanks like she was dumbfounded. God does answer prayers, the only thing is that you need to pray for something that is in his will and have a relationship with him. It doesnt help if you're like hey F$%# you God/.............oh, hey...............can I like get you to give me the finances for a new car? Doesn't work like that. Doesn't that make sense? I will admit that I am weak and am nothing. I am no better than anyone else and I would love to run to God because he is really the only one who protects me or gives my life meaning. Otherwise I dont have much reason to live. I am an attractive 21 year old male with no girlfriend, no friends left(some have died), one of my closest friends died(my dog), I have no major, I wasnt accepted in the college I applied to, I am over 2000 miles away from home, and I dont know what I am going to do with my life. But it is awesome. When you say invisible deities who have nothing better to do........are you saying God cares for people cause he is bored? Nah, its cause he created them and he loves them. Imagine being married to the best spouse you could ever ever ever find. Imagine how attached you would feel and how much you would love them. Now imagine that is how God feels about every single person on earth. even the people who hate him. That is why it hurts him so much when people turn away and obviously he wants them with him and not Satan. I am sorry that you didnt seem to get much out of praying or going to church. I think praying is more important than going to church and you dont have to go to church to gain a lot but it is advisable to hang out with a group of people who believe in God here and there. Church is supposed to help cement the things you learn from the Bible. You want to believe what Jesus said and the pastors are supposed to cement that not teach something totally different(which they often do). Sometimes it seems like God is not there and just silent. He is there. Sometimes I will hear from him and then for a LONG time it will seem like nothing. There is always a reason. It could be that for one he wants you to go to him for your problems and not something else. I think you have to turn it over to God 100% instead of having your foot in this and then your other foot on God's territory. Its like a wife who has a conversation with her husband and he is answering back but at the same time he is watching the football game and not even looking at her. Im sure God feels the same way. Like what the heck, do you want me or just the effect of my power? So, in conclusion maybe you should read the Bible instead of listening to what other people say. I would start from Matthew and move on. I think you will find what it says to be true for your life. Don't take some pastors word for it test it yourself. In addition I will pray for you and ask God to reveal himself to you.


,Travis

[scottsummers]

explain to me why you cant forgive yourself and I will try to see if I can tell where you're coming from. I have had many many many times I couldnt forgive myself but I learned that the things that I thought were my fault really weren't and the things that were my fault were and I learned to not do them anymore. I wouldnt say placing blame on yourself is better than placing blame on others but it shows that you seem to be more considerate of other people's feelings. That should show you right there part of your character. Someone who only wants to place blame on others thinks that they are perfect. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's the perfect martial artist either. No one can beat everyone up. You may master a technique but you can't master man. You can be a martial arts master with 70 years of training and someone just pulls out a gun and shoots you and all that is instantly gone. I am just showing that humans are humans. Anyways, tell me whats up.

Travis

[tekkengod]

i'll reply to this through PM in a bit cause i don't want to hog anymore of this thread.

[TheCount]

Yes, sucks that the feeling weren't mutual but it weren't so bad that I couldn't love again.

[saru1968]

I've been in Love many times in my life, and each time the 'Love' has been different and each person's definition will be different.

:-)

[MDN]

explain to me why you cant forgive yourself and I will try to see if I can tell where you're coming from. I have had many many many times I couldnt forgive myself but I learned that the things that I thought were my fault really weren't and the things that were my fault were and I learned to not do them anymore. I wouldnt say placing blame on yourself is better than placing blame on others but it shows that you seem to be more considerate of other people's feelings. That should show you right there part of your character. Someone who only wants to place blame on others thinks that they are perfect. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's the perfect martial artist either. No one can beat everyone up. You may master a technique but you can't master man. You can be a martial arts master with 70 years of training and someone just pulls out a gun and shoots you and all that is instantly gone. I am just showing that humans are humans. Anyways, tell me whats up.

Travis


I've been rejected/passed over by women that then went on to ask out men that were either drug dealers and/or cheated on them. That was my first mistake. My second mistake was letting it hurt me. My third mistake was not keep groomed all the time. My Third mistake was being shy and not making the first move and being nervous all the time. People just don't understand how devasting it is to be shy. And it didn't help that I have mild cronic depression either.

For these reasons I strive to become a stronger person. I have a sort of sixth sense about who want to be/is a couple. Now this sort of love detection just goes off and makes me see what I want and that I am too weak of a person to achieve those goals. I got hurt because I was weak. Only the weak get hurt. I have learned that if you don't go forward in life, you get left behind. That is fact.

People say be yourself and eventually you'll find the one and it will all magically work out. This is bs advice for the naive. That may work for some, but for people like me, goals are not reached by waiting. Love is work. This is also fact.