[Choi Kwang Do] Start / End of Classes

[thirstknowledge]

Can someone tell me (being quite new to choi) is there a correct way to start and finish a class - i mean what is said, when you bow, which way you turn and such - its just ive been to a few differnet schools and they all seem to have their own twist on what gets done.

Is there one correct way/procedure ?

Just wanted to know

[amiller127]

Can someone tell me (being quite new to choi) is there a correct way to start and finish a class - i mean what is said, when you bow, which way you turn and such - its just ive been to a few differnet schools and they all seem to have their own twist on what gets done.

Is there one correct way/procedure ?

Just wanted to know

Well I guess the 100% correct way would be the one used at CKDMAI HQ or when Dojunim is present in anyway for a CKD event.

To start. Everyone faces the flags and the most senior of the students calls for everyone to bow. Then pledge and tenets (promise and tenets for the kids) are recited, started by the senior student. Dojunim or the instructor who is taking the class then turns to face the class and the most senior person in the class calls for them to bow. Then the class starts.

To end when everyone lines up the senior student calls for everyone to face the flags and bow, then the instructor who took the class turns to the front and the class bow to him and he then leaves class. Finally the second most senior student calls for the class to turn to the senior student and the second most senior student calls the class to bow to the senior student, who then dissmises the class.

Whew!! Thats pretty much the standard way of starting classes. Some people vary it depending on circumstances, especially if its a new school and the students havent got to grips with the calling yet. I know of a few classes who dont practice it that way and some that just have the senior instructor do all of the calling :rolleyes: Wouldnt know who those instructors are though!

By the way. Welcome to MAP :D

(Quick warning seeing as you are new. Please dont mention any of the following in the forums on CKD unless you want to have lots of sarcastc and/or angry replies from other Martial Artists:

Why CKD is better than traditional martial arts, even though it is ;)
The benefits of not sparring :D
Circular blocking motions :D
Why blocking with both the radius and ulna are better than using the one bone to block. :D
Why CKD is a really effective self defence art :D

Think that about covers it all. By no means let me stop you from mentioning these topics, its just from experience that those particular topics seem to incense the MAP famliy into massive arguments :D
)

[Rossignol]

Hi, I came across MAP very recently. I've been viewing with great interest the discussion topics and have finally plucked up the courage to join in! I have been practising CKD for two and a half years now, having never done a martial art before, and am now totally hooked! Would also like to ask a question if I may on lining up at the start of the class - at our school, our instructor and assistant instructors all line up at the front of the junior class....after the commands, they turn to face the students....question is, which way should they turn? By the left shoulder or by the right shoulder? Reason I ask is that we do it one way as a class, but when we have visiting instructors there is sometimes a difference of view and it looks a bit like a comedy act if some go one way and some the other! A small point I know but I think the etiquette is important...

[Scaramouch]

A question on the Korean commands used to start/end classes -

What are they, and what do they actually mean? I just copy everyone else, but would be interested to know the actual tranlation. It helps to remember them if you actually know their meaning.

Alternatively, does anyone have a link to a CKD site that lists them or has a Korean glossary? Would be useful for some of the techniques as well, as some intructors use Korean whilst others use English.

[amiller127]

Hi, I came across MAP very recently. I've been viewing with great interest the discussion topics and have finally plucked up the courage to join in! I have been practising CKD for two and a half years now, having never done a martial art before, and am now totally hooked! Would also like to ask a question if I may on lining up at the start of the class - at our school, our instructor and assistant instructors all line up at the front of the junior class....after the commands, they turn to face the students....question is, which way should they turn? By the left shoulder or by the right shoulder? Reason I ask is that we do it one way as a class, but when we have visiting instructors there is sometimes a difference of view and it looks a bit like a comedy act if some go one way and some the other! A small point I know but I think the etiquette is important...

I dont think it matters which way you turn around to be honest. After a bit of thinking I seem to turn in a clockwise direction so I do it by turning over my right shoulder.

As for Korean terms Scaramouch, have you checked out the Members section of the CKD web site? It lists all the korean terms on there for you. You need to have a valid membership and then ask your instructor for your membership number and Pin to access it.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Technically I believe you're meant to turn to your left.

[SideySid]

In my CKD lessons the most senior student will always call out:
"Turn right to the rear adjust your doboks", then...."When ready, turn right to the front and face the flags"...
I think by announcing this the class looks neater as they finish the class, and everybody isn't spinning around in all directions looking like tazmanian devils... :D

[thehaggishunter]

A question on the Korean commands used to start/end classes -

What are they, and what do they actually mean? I just copy everyone else, but would be interested to know the actual tranlation. It helps to remember them if you actually know their meaning.

Alternatively, does anyone have a link to a CKD site that lists them or has a Korean glossary? Would be useful for some of the techniques as well, as some intructors use Korean whilst others use English.


http://www.choikwangdo.net/manual/stuguide/chapter13.html

Can anyone give the correct pronounciations of these though ? ?

[morphus]

The problem with pronounciation is that although we may feel we are saying it correctly we have to account for accent. For example there is a big difference between a Birmingham accent & a Cardiff accent & it will never really sound exactly the same. I always have a problem when i go to London understanding the commands, it does take some getting used to.

[bigalexe]

you think its hard in england.

i have aan american (flat american tone) instructor and went to a nearby dojang to test which is owned by Ken Tong, a korean(i think) instructor... i felt dumb cause i couldnt understand a word he said.