Ocho-Ocho?

[Chase]

Hi, Is ocho-ocho the same as figure eights? Could someone describe ocho-ocho to me?
Thanks in advance,
Ingat ka,

[shootodog]

Hi, Is ocho-ocho the same as figure eights? Could someone describe ocho-ocho to me?
Thanks in advance,
Ingat ka,

okey guys from the pinas, pls stop laughing! this isn't the ocho ocho of bayani agbayani! he's talking about the eight figure eights of the presas brothers. other styles have these too.

[ranger]

i can't stop laughing! i'm so sorry! :D

i'm not familiar with the term its done with two baston right? or kinda like doing a number 8 with the baston? i dunno really... :)

[surgingshark]

*ROFLMAO*
Damn, I'm from California, and even I know what the 8-8 is! *doesn't have the focus to spell it out*


And yes, other styles have it too (I've seen figure-eights done with staffs).

Okay, to avoid uncontrollable fits of laughter, let us dub this move the "doble ocho", ok?

*keeps laughing*

[Chase]

okey guys from the pinas, pls stop laughing! this isn't the ocho ocho of bayani agbayani! he's talking about the eight figure eights of the presas brothers. other styles have these too.

:o Hi S, Yeah, well, at least I found out you were talking about figure 8's. I do a lot of them!

[shootodog]

:o Hi S, Yeah, well, at least I found out you were talking about figure 8's. I do a lot of them!

it helps if you do it with an edged weapon. the forms become more pronounced (and makes more sense).

[juramentado]

*keeps hearing stupid song inside head*

LOL! It's a stupid song and even more stupid dance. Leave it to Philippine lunchtime variety shows to celebrate the tacky side of Philippine life.

But seriously, I think it does have something to do with doble baston.

[shootodog]

*keeps hearing stupid song inside head*

LOL! It's a stupid song and even more stupid dance. Leave it to Philippine lunchtime variety shows to celebrate the tacky side of Philippine life.

But seriously, I think it does have something to do with doble baston.

***what brother jur is hearing inside his head: "tayo'y mag ocho ocho, ocho ocho, mag ocho ocho na"****

it can be done with solo baston as well.

[Gryphon Hall]

It can also mean doing the figure eight cutting techniques while moving around to cover all "eight" sides, ala hopogiri, but I've seen someone do it with doble baston and it is really cool. Anakin Skywalker did a slow version of that technique, supposedly an Arnis technique from the rumors I heard.



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:D Sorry, can't help it.

One plus one, Magellan
Two plus two, Lapu-Lapu
Four plus four, equals eight
Doblehin ang eight


Tayo'y mag-ocho ocho...
ROFLVVH (Rolling on floor laughing very, very hard)... Oh, help! My tummy is aching.

Seriously, the references to Magellan and Lapu-Lapu obviously denotes its relationship to Kali/Arnis/Escrima.

Not.

ROFSM (Rolls on floor some more)

:love:

[Chase]

it helps if you do it with an edged weapon. the forms become more pronounced (and makes more sense).

Hi S, I'll try putting more emphasis on them with a knife/knives; thanx.

Ingat ka ;)

[aml01_ph]

TAYO'Y MAG OCHO OCHO. OCHO OCHO. OCHO OCHO NA :D

Sorry I can't help it. This was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title.

Personally I prefer watching "Spaghetti" :D

[Em-em]

What happens if we integrate bayani's ocho-ocho with a doble baston... :confused: just thinking :D

[Silentblade]

itlll look more stupider and will give bad impression to FMA. haha

[ranger]

What happens if we integrate bayani's ocho-ocho with a doble baston... :confused: just thinking :D

just imagine, it would be very hard doing that figure 8 then doing the ocho-ocho dance step. :D

by the way, seriously doing figure 8 with the baston is a very good exercise for the hands and arms. and it looks good to perform also but its just exercise for us. pamuno (fundamentals) ba!

good day :)

[Gryphon Hall]

The "Spaghetti Dance" may be a good way to dodge lateral strikes to the head or blocking same strikes, while putting your opponent in a catatonic state of surprised wonder that you can take advantage of.




[Really sorry, but just thinking of this thread while I am offline makes me laugh. I will try to post a better description of the actual Ocho-ocho technique later. Probably with pictures, too.

Could we upload short AVI videos, I wonder?]

[juramentado]

Gryphon Hall, for the love of God, please don't post any AVIs or even pics here of that stupid dance. It's embarassing enough just seeing grownups doing it and I don't want to spread that hideous craze outside of the country.

please, let's retain our Filipino dignity here :)

[Chase]

just imagine, it would be very hard doing that figure 8 then doing the ocho-ocho dance step. :D

by the way, seriously doing figure 8 with the baston is a very good exercise for the hands and arms. and it looks good to perform also but its just exercise for us. pamuno (fundamentals) ba!

good day :)

Hi Ranger, Speaking of fundamentals, what system of angles do you use in your prastice? I use the twelve angles of Inosanto. ;)

[Gryphon Hall]

Gryphon Hall, for the love of God, please don't post any AVIs or even pics here of that stupid dance. It's embarassing enough just seeing grownups doing it and I don't want to spread that hideous craze outside of the country.

please, let's retain our Filipino dignity here :) No-no-no-no-no-NOOOOOOO!!! I mean an AVI of the real double-eight technique. I am not that insane. It's just that it is hard to describe in words, but this technique uses a redondo technique while spinning to cover all eight sides. Yes, it's kata-ish, but I have seen it work in real life.

Let me repeat: I wiill never put a back-pumping human on this site.

Juramentado, just the suggestion that such silliness will be posted for all the world to see scared the funniness out of the song. As in, namutla ako (I went pale).

Honest. (Hingal-hingal-hingal...)

[surgingshark]

No-no-no-no-no-NOOOOOOO!!! I mean an AVI of the real double-eight technique. I am not that insane. It's just that it is hard to describe in words, but this technique uses a redondo technique while spinning to cover all eight sides. Yes, it's kata-ish, but I have seen it work in real life.

Let me repeat: I wiill never put a back-pumping human on this site.

Juramentado, just the suggestion that such silliness will be posted for all the world to see scared the funniness out of the song. As in, namutla ako (I went pale).

Honest. (Hingal-hingal-hingal...)

If you can turn it into a .wmv file that is less than 2 MEGS, I can upload it to my server :)

Yes, that plague must not be allowed to leave the country! Same with its mutated cousin, the Rising/Falling Spaghetti virus strain!

[xLJx]

dagnammit... stop the dance craze crap and get on with business... :D

Ocho-Ocho: this is the technique I've been trying to perfect for the past few days. I think it can be applied in solo/doble baston, espada y daga, and daga y daga. it involves swinging the weapon to form something like a sideward 8 or the infinity symbol (can be done either upward or downward). I think it can also be applied after doing an 'abaniko' as another system in doble baston...

but then, I haven't mastered it myself... :D you'd better go look for a copy of Grandmaster Ernesto Presas's book about Arnis...

hope this helps. :)

[shootodog]

dagnammit... stop the dance craze crap and get on with business... :D

Ocho-Ocho: this is the technique I've been trying to perfect for the past few days. I think it can be applied in solo/doble baston, espada y daga, and daga y daga. it involves swinging the weapon to form something like a sideward 8 or the infinity symbol (can be done either upward or downward). I think it can also be applied after doing an 'abaniko' as another system in doble baston...

but then, I haven't mastered it myself... :D you'd better go look for a copy of Grandmaster Ernesto Presas's book about Arnis...

hope this helps. :)

yes! get a copy of the book! it is shown there. (hahaha the mumbakki was still reed thin when they shot that book).

pamela one pamela pela one. pamela two, pamela pela two... :D :D :D

[ranger]

Hi Ranger, Speaking of fundamentals, what system of angles do you use in your prastice? I use the twelve angles of Inosanto. ;)

i'm not well-versed with this what do you mean system of angles? :)

[shootodog]

i'm not well-versed with this what do you mean system of angles? :)

i think he means, cinco teros? doce teros? and the like (like he asked you what system of fma you're studying).

[Chase]

dagnammit... stop the dance craze crap and get on with business... :D

Ocho-Ocho: this is the technique I've been trying to perfect for the past few days. I think it can be applied in solo/doble baston, espada y daga, and daga y daga. it involves swinging the weapon to form something like a sideward 8 or the infinity symbol (can be done either upward or downward). I think it can also be applied after doing an 'abaniko' as another system in doble baston...

but then, I haven't mastered it myself... :D you'd better go look for a copy of Grandmaster Ernesto Presas's book about Arnis...

hope this helps. :)

Hi x, Goood advice! I do mostly upward ones because I have a lower center of gravity in the chair & I do them on three sides, still trying to figure out how to do them directly behind me, though. The closest I've come is an overhead, abaniko I think. Thankx! ;)
Ingat ka,

[Chase]

i'm not well-versed with this what do you mean system of angles? :)

Hi Ranger, Yeah, the 12 angles was the first thing I learned in my intro. to Kali. Inosanto's original blend [I think I heard there were more now]: right shoulder to left hip,left shoulder to right hip, lateral slash right to left, then left to right, punjo to right waist, punjo to right colar,punjo left colar, left side of head slash to nuts, right upward to chin, left upward to chin, down centerline from head to nuts, upward centerline. I guess it's like S says because I don't know much Filipino, except Ingat ka, ;)

[ranger]

Hi Ranger, Yeah, the 12 angles was the first thing I learned in my intro. to Kali. Inosanto's original blend [I think I heard there were more now]: right shoulder to left hip,left shoulder to right hip, lateral slash right to left, then left to right, punjo to right waist, punjo to right colar,punjo left colar, left side of head slash to nuts, right upward to chin, left upward to chin, down centerline from head to nuts, upward centerline. I guess it's like S says because I don't know much Filipino, except Ingat ka, ;)

ah okay. well, doce pares for me. quite the same angles of strikes. but i don't quite know how to describe "angat". we concentrate on the espada daga. sorry not quite familiar with the terms. i just do it. hehehe :)

[Chase]

ah okay. well, doce pares for me. quite the same angles of strikes. but i don't quite know how to describe "angat". we concentrate on the espada daga. sorry not quite familiar with the terms. i just do it. hehehe :)

Hi ranger, Sounds to me like you have a handle on the hardest part, which is just doing it. Does espada daga concentrate on the long range?
Ingat ka, ;)

[ranger]

Hi ranger, Sounds to me like you have a handle on the hardest part, which is just doing it. Does espada daga concentrate on the long range? Ingat ka, ;)

short range for us. the daga always used as yabe/susi (key). its not depensa contra opensa (force against force). describe yours chase.

halong ka man :)

[Chase]

short range for us. the daga always used as yabe/susi (key). its not depensa contra opensa (force against force). describe yours chase.

halong ka man :)

Hi ranger, My studies in Kali all have short range more because I can't do the footwork, its all from my chair unless you include hitching a ride from my opponent from time to time, but then I use the chair to sweep him mostly. I use a lot of knife,too. Lately I've been using knives with two blades, you know, one protruding from the thumb side,the other from the little finger side. Hey, what does halong ka mean? :confused:

[ranger]

Hi ranger, My studies in Kali all have short range more because I can't do the footwork, its all from my chair unless you include hitching a ride from my opponent from time to time, but then I use the chair to sweep him mostly. I use a lot of knife,too. Lately I've been using knives with two blades, you know, one protruding from the thumb side,the other from the little finger side.

thanx for the description. way to go there! the kali must and always never leaves the center, your center. more power to your practice!

Hey, what does halong ka mean? :confused:

It means "ingat ka" as you always say. :D

[Chase]

thanx for the description. way to go there! the kali must and always never leaves the center, your center. more power to your practice!



It means "ingat ka" as you always say. :D


Thanx for your other explanation!
halong ka, :D

[shootodog]

halong ka man :)

pre, what dialect is that?

ingat ka men!

[Chase]

pre, what dialect is that?

ingat ka men!

Hi S, You got me, I just thought it was another way to say take care. I got my hands full with English grammar.
Ingat ka, ;)

[shootodog]

Hi S, You got me, I just thought it was another way to say take care. I got my hands full with English grammar.
Ingat ka, ;)

that's ok. in china, they speak putong hwa (new people's mandarin) but have hundreds of regional dialects and subdialects.

same with pilipino (which is basically tagalog) and several dialects (that may run into the hundreds if you count the indigenous tribal dialects). many filipinos would know pilipino, english and a regional dialect.

some of the major dialects are: ilokano, pampango, tagalog, bikolano, cebuano (bisaya), ilonggo, chabakano, and arabic (for the muslim scholars).

even here the filipino chinese speak both hokkien (fukkien) and mandarin.

[Taliesin]

I'm sorry guys :eek: , I just couldn't keep it under wraps any longer, the full cultural experience of the ocho-ocho can be seen here :

http://www.superpilipinas.com/video_012/video_01.htm

:o

Buhay si buhay si hirap :cry:

[surgingshark]

You fool! You have doomed us all!!!

[juramentado]

I'm sorry guys :eek: , I just couldn't keep it under wraps any longer, the full cultural experience of the ocho-ocho can be seen here :

http://www.superpilipinas.com/video_012/video_01.htm

:o

Buhay si buhay si hirap :cry:


Why? Why show that stupidity? Seriously...what made you think we Filipinos here on MAP in general would like to show the world the stupid side of our culture? You think it's cute? :confused:

[Gryphon Hall]

GaaaaaaaAAAAAAHHHH!!! Just when I got the new ocho-ocho mutation out of my head!!! [hears pamelas repeating itself]

Why? WHY?!!!

[krys]

some of the major dialects are: ilokano, pampango, tagalog, bikolano, cebuano (bisaya), ilonggo, chabakano, and arabic (for the muslim scholars).

+ don't forget indonesian-malay, many muslim filipinos who live in the islands of the sulu sea speak this language.... and there are lots of filipinos living in Sabah (no official figures but they could be more than 500000, the predominant group being Tausug).

[aml01_ph]

(twiddles his thumbs with drool coming out)

[Acekicken]

In Modern Arnis it is Done With Both Singel , Double Sticks as Well
As Espada Y Daga.

[ranger]

In Modern Arnis it is Done With Both Singel , Double Sticks as Well
As Espada Y Daga.

ocho-ocho in espada daga? done much like the doble baston sinawali?

[shootodog]

ocho-ocho in espada daga? done much like the doble baston sinawali?

not really. looks like a variant of siniwali.