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Sonshu
28-Oct-2002, 04:45 PM
PLEASE WITH THIS ONE - it is for a melee weapon no guns (Us UK boys cant play with them) and also not my hands are my weapons as we all know and agree with this!

ALSO

What is in your mind the most effective weapon and why????

Over to you all!

SONSHU

Acekicken
28-Oct-2002, 05:26 PM
Sticks & knives (FMA) , I love a good Sword too

The Most Efective Weapon
I would say is a staff
For it's long reach.

waya
28-Oct-2002, 07:30 PM
I have to say swords, preferrably a shorter blade because the techniques are easier to adapt. I have been impressed with a few others recently but I don't have any experience with using them so I'll stick to something I know lol.

Rob

pesilat
28-Oct-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Sonshu
PLEASE WITH THIS ONE - it is for a melee weapon no guns (Us UK boys cant play with them) and also not my hands are my weapons as we all know and agree with this!

ALSO

What is in your mind the most effective weapon and why????

Over to you all!

SONSHU

Whatever I can get my hands on when the need arises :)

As I've said elsewhere on this forum and others, I'm a big proponent of flexible weapons. Using clothes (mine or the attacker's). I like this because it'll almost always be available as an option.

But, literally, the *best* weapon is whatever I can get my hands on when the need arises. If I can't get my hands on it then it won't do me much good.

Mike

KarateKid1975
28-Oct-2002, 09:20 PM
I only trained with a bo staff, and I messed around with a few others. But I like the bo or short stick, because once you learn it, anything (stick on the ground, pole, bat, ect) can be used as a staff as a weapon when the need arises. It's kinda cool if you think about it :)

LilBunnyRabbit
28-Oct-2002, 11:30 PM
Short knives. About two inch long blade at the most, nice and sharp. Preferably double-edged blades. Unserrated.

TkdWarrior
29-Oct-2002, 02:46 AM
bow n arrow...i can shoot u from distant too :D

if u asking about weapons then i hav done bit of knife, then nunchaku...n nunchaku can be bit noisy...in situations...
my favorite would be indian flexible sword(if i knew how to use it)
cuz it covers 18 feet around u :D u can handle army of men(not with gun n granades) easily
and yes it's not fantasy...
-TkdWarrior-

Sweeet
29-Oct-2002, 04:37 AM
Definitely a sword...

A single, light, nice sword, in the hands of a skilled practitioner..

Awesome.

Sweeet.

Darzeka
29-Oct-2002, 04:43 AM
I'm a big fan of archery but actually hitting someone from a large range would be quite a task.

I love the speed and range of attacks with the shorter staffs - Hanbo + Jo.

I really like my keychain which I've modelled after a small Manriki.

And any short sword, preferably two - Roman Gladius', Ninjitos, etc.

Sonshu
29-Oct-2002, 07:47 AM
Most people who have done it like the hand-bo & Jo as they are really excellent and practical weapons! - good choice!

SONSHU

Sonshu
29-Oct-2002, 07:51 AM
Is a Katana.

Have to say I like Yari (Spear's) and Naginata (Pole Arm) as the range is a real bonus and with good timing you can beat any swordsman.

Just got to use your feet well.

Most are good - a Kasari is good but not often used as its mostly a taijutsu weapon. Also a good old knife!

SONSHU

Joseki
29-Oct-2002, 07:59 AM
Mine for practical use would be the kobutan but for training Nunchakus, Jo infact most of them hahaha as long as I dont hurt myself in training.

pgm316
29-Oct-2002, 08:39 AM
I like my sticks, work at a good range, very effective and best thing to use without getting in trouble, ie maybe bruises and fractures instead of slicing somebody open.

Freeform
29-Oct-2002, 03:20 PM
Hmm, hate knives, it'll have to be a stick of some description, a tonfa maybe...

KarateKid1975
30-Oct-2002, 04:03 AM
I have to add to my answer above. I like the nunchakus. I don't know about being effective, but they look so cool when done by a good practitioner. I tried to practice with them, which I did get kinda good with a few moves, but I know that it'll take a looooong time to get really good with them. But I'm up for the challege :D

Martial Sloth
30-Oct-2002, 11:44 AM
A SCUD?! :) :) Hehehe..just kidding, for me'd I'd have to say a bo!

Silly question on the side, what's the correct name for the curved blades resembling a miniture sickle?? Blade almost at right-angles to the handle

LilBunnyRabbit
30-Oct-2002, 11:51 AM
Kama aren't they?

Darzeka
31-Oct-2002, 06:59 AM
yeah and kickass weapons they are too, useful for farming too.

When using two they have amazing potential, really useful for disarming opponents.

Martial Sloth
31-Oct-2002, 07:51 AM
:):):) Hehehe...disarming, in every sense of the word!

pgm316
31-Oct-2002, 10:23 AM
What would you say is the most usefull weapon for you to learn?

I'd have to say the sticks.

But, Sniper riffles are proving effective these days!

Nevada_MO_Guy
22-Apr-2004, 03:57 AM
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12722

Poop-Loops
22-Apr-2004, 04:09 AM
I'll have to say katana also. Nice and light, no need to use much muscle to cut someone in half. :)

PL

Stolenbjorn
22-Apr-2004, 07:24 AM
My favourite weapon is the longsword. It's like the ultimate multitool from the renissanse :)

Speed
22-Apr-2004, 07:35 AM
If this is just MA weapons for use in the dojo then sorry for getting off subject. I've never trained with MA weapons so my choices are guns or small knives in public. I know original poster said no guns but I'm american and thats my thing. I go to a shooting range once a week so thats pretty much my weapons training.

Streets: I'd pick my snub-nosed .38 spec colt revolver or my switchblade.

Bars: Pool stick, Liqour bottles or above.

Home: Doublebarrel shotgun, .45 colt semiauto pistol, and a Light-weight Baseball bat. I carry a baseball bat in my car too.

I wouldn't mind learning to use a staff or sword but I don't see realistic use for them in public defense. I mean, how can you conceal them?

spacepimp
22-Apr-2004, 07:41 AM
I wouldn't mind learning to use a staff or sword but I don't see realistic use for them in public defense. I mean, how can you conceal them?
My personal Favorite one to learn is the nunchuka. Finding that most strikes are done without really flailing them around though. Really like it's take down features.

I am learning the staff (Bo), because of the distance and staffs exist in almost every public are (long sticks, brooms, mops.. etc..)

jroe52
22-Apr-2004, 07:52 AM
my mind, but i haven't figured out how to use it yet.

Speed
22-Apr-2004, 08:24 AM
spacepimp, pool sticks too. Hmm, since you brought up the broom sticks (etc) the more I think learning staff isn't such a bad idea, never really thought about all the things that could be used in place of a regular staff.

But think I'd KO myself with using nunchaku. :/

Kenpo Kicker
22-Apr-2004, 08:30 AM
Other than my natural body weapons (hands feet knees elbows), I go for a kali stick any day. It brings up my range big time. I'm a good kicker so I can do alot of combos with kali sticks. I am out of training though with kali sticks. I also wish you could spar with them without bashing your partners head in :( . Maybe if I get some rubber/foam like ones I can do so. Hell that will be alot of fun with my wing chun friend. I think I should go see if they got those. I know they got em for nun-chucks.

iolair
22-Apr-2004, 08:52 AM
If I had a chance to learn it, I'd love to use the English Short Staff (which, despite the name, is around 9ft or almost 3m long).

At the moment, I've done a lot of fencing, so I'm happiest with an epée.

Stolenbjorn
22-Apr-2004, 09:33 AM
I think I should go see if they got those. I know they got em for nun-chucks.

Just make one yourselft! Ask in a Larp -comunity near you, or buy sleeping mat, glassfiber pole, ca. 1cm thick, superglue, gaffatape, and you're on!

Vanir
22-Apr-2004, 09:43 AM
Fun value: nunchakus

Weapon value: katana

Gotta be properly sized and balanced for personal use.

Kenpo Kicker
22-Apr-2004, 09:59 AM
Just make one yourselft! Ask in a Larp -comunity near you, or buy sleeping mat, glassfiber pole, ca. 1cm thick, superglue, gaffatape, and you're on!


That is an option if I cannot find one on the net.

Alex_JHH
22-Apr-2004, 08:50 PM
I hope to train in the Bo staff soon, as I like it as a weapon, just because I do :D

ptkali778
22-Apr-2004, 09:12 PM
i would say (FMA) kali sticks.....if they're not available, than anything i can get my hands on, say for example, rolled up newspaper, belt, bandana (for whipping), etc... :)

aikiMac
22-Apr-2004, 09:18 PM
Favorite weapon is the katana. No contest. There's a reason the Scotish Highlander who traveled all over the world settled upon the katana: it's beautiful, and it will bite your head off, at the same time.

Most effective weapon is the human brain. Too bad it takes years if not decades to properly train for its use.

Kukishinden Ryu
22-Apr-2004, 09:54 PM
I love Bisento's and Ono battle axes

Senga
23-Apr-2004, 03:55 PM
Well, i'm training myself in how to use the Bo staff...::sigh:: but it's mainly of spinning. i wish my master would teach me for real. Just started lerning the nun-chakus last Monday...it's going painfully slow.

Question, (2 actually): is spinning the bo of any use in using it to fight?

2nd question: are introductory threads allowed here?

ToRNaDo LorD
26-Aug-2004, 11:47 PM
The weapon I think is the best and know is the best is a sword.
with a sword there are so many attacks and blocks it would take forver to learn them all.
So quik, so light, yet so dangouros.
others are:
Bo
Sai
Nunchucku
Two Blade Sword (I made myself, one blade left, one blade right)

Smee
27-Aug-2004, 12:22 AM
I do Chinese systems so:-

Best Melee weapon: double butterfly knives. Twin short swords. Quick and dirty. I luv em. Lots of damage potential.

Most likely to be of use: Long Staff. Any big mutha stick will do. Broom handle, snooker cue etc etc

Most fun: 9 section chain whip. Looks cool, you can do the moves with your belt. Hurts your head when you make a mistake.

Most eager to learn: Kwan Dao - big mutha f sword blade on end of 6 foot pole. Bwahahahahaha!!! I have a 12 lb kwan dao in the garage. Just waiting to learn the form!!!

Paul

oni_sensei
27-Aug-2004, 01:24 AM
Favourite Weapon: Naginata
Most Proficient at: Wakizashi
Most effective: Glock 32, in a holster behind my bedhead.

Cudgel
27-Aug-2004, 01:33 AM
ok oni_sensei that was beaustiful

animefreak88
27-Aug-2004, 04:26 AM
only weapon i'm currently formally trained in is the bo. my school also teaches sai and tonfa. i've messed around with swords and nunchukus some, but not enough to amount to much of anything. i like the bo because of its effectiveness, and i am really impressed by dual tonfas and a katana. speaking of which, does anyone know of any places in delaware that teach good sword and/or nunchaku techniques? there are a few places that teach how to twirl nunchakus, but i think that's about it. although i would also think its fun to just hack somethin up with butterfly swords. and who wouldn't get a kick out of taking a big ol' swing with a german zweihander :D ?

eonwei
27-Aug-2004, 04:34 AM
The katana is my favorite weapon even though i personally have never used it. It looks like it would be suuuper hard to master but extremely effective. I know that Aldarion is actually buying a $1000 katana lol. Whether he'll train with it i dont know.

Aldarion
27-Aug-2004, 04:48 AM
The katana is my favorite weapon even though i personally have never used it. It looks like it would be suuuper hard to master but extremely effective. I know that Aldarion is actually buying a $1000 katana lol. Whether he'll train with it i dont know.

haha actually it's $800 and the Katana is my favorite weapon as well. I also like to just play with roshakubos and yonshakubos and i carved myself a bokken too. However if we are talking about weapons in a war i would prefer the yari or naginata

daftyman
27-Aug-2004, 07:31 AM
What is in your mind the most effective weapon and why????
My mind is the best weapon! :D

for 'practical' purposes I like the idea of the Jo (my school are going to look at this in the new year) as it can be substituted by a large umbrella/walking stick. And you can carry them without the boys in blue taking you to the nick!

I really enjoy my taiji fencing though.

A guy in one of my school's classes got beat up pretty bad because of two things. He did not see the weapon the attacker got from somewhere (it might have been a glass bottle), and he also failed to realised the reality of the situation. If he had, he might have mashed the guy properly before the weapon came into it. Who knows?

Polar Bear
27-Aug-2004, 07:36 AM
Broadsword.

Kanku
27-Aug-2004, 08:27 AM
nunchaku

daftyman
27-Aug-2004, 09:11 AM
This is my (insert weapon of choice). There are many like it, but this one is mine. My (insert weapon of choice) is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, as I must master my life. Without me, my (insert weapon of choice) is useless. Without my (insert weapon of choice), I am useless. I must fire (use) my (insert weapon of choice) true. I must shoot (use my weapon) straighter (better) than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot (use my weapon on) him before he shoots (uses his weapon on) me. I will.

Before God I swear this creed. My (insert weapon of choice) and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviours of my life. So be it ... until there is no enemy ...but peace. Amen.
:D

Cudgel
27-Aug-2004, 09:27 AM
beautiful

You know I jsut realize di had posted what my fav weapon is in this thread. :eek:

Greteswords I lke the later period ones jsut before they became the massily tal ones of the late renaisance.
Somthing about 5 ft totla lentgh maybe around 4 pounds.
I love them cuz with a big weapon its all about finnese> you cant spend the whole fight just swinging smoething so big you have dodge and stuff nd put teh sword where you want it with as little effort as possible. And its a whole body work out to use one.

El Tejon
27-Aug-2004, 06:06 PM
I've done some real nice work with the radio before so that's my fave. :D

You only use your voice to destroy your threat, simply talk to the Gods of Thunder and Pain to your rear or the Gods of Screaming Death above and report what happens next. :Angel:

Cudgel
27-Aug-2004, 08:46 PM
Now is it me or are there far too many "whats your favorite weapon" threads hanging around here?

RichieRich
27-Aug-2004, 08:49 PM
Er, my rapier wit?

Oh.

Taxi!

*gets hat and coat*

Bellator Manus
29-Aug-2004, 09:16 PM
Most effective would be either the sword or spear. In wars spears would be cheaper though. Maybe they are the most effective.

My favorite would be either a:
Nunchaku. I carry it around pretty easily and it wouldn't get in the way and it whips knifes or small sticks because of it's range or ability to disarm respectively.
Knife. If I were trying to sneak around I would use this. Just come behind someone and a quick slit on the neck then you keep sneaking around.
Staff/Spear/Naganata if I ever had a chance to prepare for a fight. I just like their range and they feel natural to me.

EarthElement
29-Aug-2004, 09:33 PM
Naginata is the most effective to me, for it has the range of a bo, and the damaging ability of a sword. In the hands of a skilled user, this can easily defeat even the the most skilled of swordsman. The only drawback is the close range of this weapon, as theres little one can do when the enemy is in close. The spin-move is about it.

Rani
30-Aug-2004, 11:28 PM
Sai, Nunchaku, Tonfa, Short Stick.

I guess I just have a thing for a short weapons that be used 2 at the time.
Swords... I don't know, they look nice and all, but I prefer a pair of Sais.

Lobsang
31-Aug-2004, 02:59 PM
Slingshot, you can hurl stones from a distains and then you miss them you can yous it as a whip or garrotte close up.

Ps. you Americans are worrying do you riley think your in so much danger that you need guns and knives and baseball bate everywhere to protect yourself :woo:.

Just relaxes a bit :love: .

Shai'tan
02-Sep-2004, 01:52 PM
Knives :D

I like knives, 2 knives one in each hand, because there are lots of different movements/kata's, you can fight very, very quick whit knives. And if you realy need them as an self defence you can do great damage. And you can throw them, I think tha't is why I like them the most.

But if knives didn't excist you would chose the katana. I practice Iaido now for 1 year (we also practice Kendo kata) and I realy love it, also very quick very much variation and very sharp.

Cudgel
02-Sep-2004, 03:20 PM
LOL
if knives didnt exists hahaha

firesprite
06-Sep-2004, 05:52 AM
My favourite would have to be the fan, but I can't find anyone who teaches is esp. anywhere near me :(
Most effective probably me :p

Dave Humm
06-Sep-2004, 06:00 AM
For eligance - My Katana

For practicality - a 9mm :)

burungkol
06-Sep-2004, 06:16 AM
A good weapon is essential for any combat situation. It may be a traditional weapon such as a knife, a swords, etc... or an unconventinal one, i.e. pencils, pens, frying pans, etc...

I've always preferred using my pen coz i have the liberty of carrying it around anytime :D

cybermonk
06-Sep-2004, 06:20 AM
I like chain weapons like the chain dart and the meteor hammer, or sun and moon hammer.

EarthElement
06-Sep-2004, 08:15 PM
i lik the 8 1/2 foot pole cause u can beat some1 senseless from a distance!!!

Wolfox
10-Sep-2004, 08:55 AM
Dual Ninja-To

Stan O'Kella
10-Sep-2004, 10:57 AM
Intelligence is the best wepon, probably been said before but i thought that i'd reiterate it!!

YODA
10-Sep-2004, 10:59 AM
Intelligence is the best wepon, probably been said before but i thought that i'd reiterate it!!
Oh no!

I'm defenseless :(

cybermonk
10-Sep-2004, 05:29 PM
Oh no!

I'm defenseless :(

Join the club.

Cudgel
10-Sep-2004, 06:50 PM
I thought stupidtity was a weapon?
I hoe so cuase that be the oly way Ill be abel to fight back with my powewrs of no brain.

jlcop
10-Sep-2004, 08:14 PM
Favorite MA weapon; Jyo, simple and versatile .

Favorite edged weapon: Puukko, I have no skill with it, just like it because of my Finnish heritage and it's feels good in my hand.

Practical:Remington 870 Express 12 ga.: It ain't elegant but it is effective.

John

Cudgel
10-Sep-2004, 10:42 PM
puukko??
Some sort of axe or pole weapon?? I have never heard of that before.

El Tejon
11-Sep-2004, 12:04 AM
Cudgel, it's a Finnish knife.

If you read any history on the Winter War or the War of Continuation or even read about it in a Larry Thorne biography, you will find reference to it.

JTiedes
26-Sep-2004, 10:32 PM
without a doubt a double crosstreed su-yari.if you go to stab someone and miss the first tree will catch them. if it doesnt then when u pull it back in the reverse tree will.

Nevada_MO_Guy
27-Sep-2004, 02:37 AM
without a doubt a double crosstreed su-yari.if you go to stab someone and miss the first tree will catch them. if it doesnt then when u pull it back in the reverse tree will.

Do you mean the jumonji yari or the katakama yari?

E-Rocker
27-Sep-2004, 02:39 AM
Either way, I have no idea what you're talking about. Can someone post a picture?

JTiedes
27-Sep-2004, 07:22 PM
http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/polearms.htm scroll down. so yeah the jumonji, but imagine on the botton of the cross trees that there are blades pointin the other way, just like original cross tree. sorry about the confusion, just forgot the name, it was the jumonji though

Stolenbjorn
28-Sep-2004, 08:54 AM
My favourite weapon is the tounge (and on fourms -my fingers) :p

Cudgel
28-Sep-2004, 03:21 PM
You know that could be taken WAY wrong.
*runs off giggeling at he potentional wongness of that*

Stolenbjorn
30-Sep-2004, 12:22 PM
Well, I just want to say that the question "what is your favourite question" isn't good. In what context?

What weapon do you usually grab for when attacked on the street?
= whatever is available
What weapon would I have used if I had it available when someone attacked me on the street?
= A sharp longsword
What weapon do I use the most?
=A knife -since I allways wear a knife because I'm producing wooden daggers and 2-hand-waisters for my Fiore class (and there we could venture into the "what is a weapon-thread" :bang: )
What weapon is nicest?
=very well made and decorated swords
What of the weapons you've actually used in a contest/fight/disagreement have people taken most pain from?
= the tounge/fingers +my wits :p

Slindsay
30-Sep-2004, 12:38 PM
I think I would prefer the bokken in a fight just because it's the only one I have ever practiced with, I reckon I could give someone a fair smack with it without actuall killing them, always a bonus in my eyes.

The weapon I would most like to be able to use is probbably the nunchucks, I really cant imagine how you would go aboput attacking someone armed with nunchucks with anythingthat a common street thug would be carrying.

Sonsgu: Areny you a MMA guy? How come you favour a sword? Just curious.

craftsman
30-Sep-2004, 02:58 PM
A Shinobi Zue is a walking/fighting staff about 3 ft long. This staff sometimes houses a hidden Fukidake (blowgun) in it's core.

The blowgun - extremely versatile - shooting; the shorter ones as a baton; longer ones as a short staff, or sword (foil style fencing), and if equipted with a bayonet, as a spear - thrown, or like a long (5 ft.) staff with attitude!

Cudgel
30-Sep-2004, 03:30 PM
OK you know what all these that is your favorite weapons threads are gttign out of hand......:rolleyes:
And I would explain why fingers and tongue are wrong but its inapropiate fro children under th age of well I dunnoo but its inapropiate and childish...just like me.
And as for me....its over 3 feet inlength and less than 7 feet I think I could use it handilly.

cobain187
04-Oct-2004, 01:45 PM
12 gauge shotgun

Coreo
10-Oct-2004, 12:36 AM
A pair of Sai's

samuri-man
10-Oct-2004, 05:56 AM
i'd have to say a kama set for or an oto (japanese battleaxe) :woo:

munkiejunkie
10-Oct-2004, 06:15 AM
he means odo (I,m the one who told him) but for me its the 5ft long urumi

Infrazael
11-Oct-2004, 04:42 PM
Three-Sectioned-Staff.

Reason is that it is segmented, allowing for more devastating strikes than a regular staff, is simply way cooler than Nunchaku, AND it can fold so you can hide it under your black leather trenchcoat.

CrimsonDemon
11-Oct-2004, 05:24 PM
Leather trenchcoat? I've always found that leather trenchcoats are very very bulky unless the fight is choreographed like a dance. Besides they get in the way, they actually do help protect; but what motorcycle jacket can't do that without those annoying flaps that somehow get in the way.

My favorite weapon, yes, would probably have to be either a good double-bladed twohander because you can have so many options with that. A pair of tonfas, that's self explanitory. Or, a spear(and I don't mean throwing spear, I mean battle spear); they get hardcore with those spears thrust in straight lines.

If not the others, I would probably have to say the spear, simply because on the battlefield it's sorta hard to get by when that massive spear head is thrust in your direction and have to worry about that butt coming around at you. In closed spaces, a tonfa would definately be better, it can inflict damage RAPIDLY, and just as quickly turn into a weapon of defense.

Infrazael
11-Oct-2004, 05:28 PM
Well I AM actually a cortchrocket fanatic. . . . he he so I'll be wearing plenty of leather.

I have currently fallen madly in love with the new 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1 Sportsbike. . . . . . . . the black one, oh, absolutely beautiful!!!!

And quite a dangerous weapon unto itself, this baby will leave a bloody wake if it runs headlong into you!!!

samuri-man
12-Oct-2004, 06:41 AM
Well I AM actually a cortchrocket fanatic. . . . he he so I'll be wearing plenty of leather.

I have currently fallen madly in love with the new 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1 Sportsbike. . . . . . . . the black one, oh, absolutely beautiful!!!!

And quite a dangerous weapon unto itself, this baby will leave a bloody wake if it runs headlong into you!!!


a mclaren f1 (the so called fastest car in the world) would make a nasty dent in you i say my second lot of favorite weapons are: a naginata, kwan dao, broad sword, katana or gorkha khukari knife

Chingmann
17-Oct-2004, 02:03 PM
Eye-brow height staff, double nunchuka, three-sectional-staff, single and duel chinese broadsword, single or duel chinese straight sword, 9-sectional whip and rope dart.

xplasma
17-Oct-2004, 05:07 PM
Shuko + Ashiko, Shaken.

Tankx1st
18-Oct-2004, 11:20 PM
i gotta go with nunchucks, best pass time, when your bored at home, what do you do? pop out the nunchucks, be or try to be like bruce lee LOLz, or butterfly knife tricks are fun too,

but fighting wise

I gotta go with the Staff or Bo(whatever you ppl call it)

It's blunt and good reach

I don't wanna kill the opponent(don't got the heart to kill), just wanna knock him out or make sure he can't move for a while(not permenantly)

Cudgel
19-Oct-2004, 03:41 PM
I believes he means ono, for hat is term ive seen used to describe a ja[panese battle axe

Double bladed twohander? U mean double edged right?

i hate to break it to u, but.......staves ARE lethal just not a lethal as bladed weapons are. Sure staff made fomr somthing flimsy like a brom stick or some softer wood would be non lethalish but a proper staff made form some sort of hard wood,ash hickory, oak, japanese white oak..... will be a very deadly weapon. The human body is a lot more frail than we are lead to believe.

Chingmann
19-Oct-2004, 05:33 PM
I believes he means ono, for hat is term ive seen used to describe a ja[panese battle axe

Double bladed twohander? U mean double edged right?

i hate to break it to u, but.......staves ARE lethal just not a lethal as bladed weapons are. Sure staff made fomr somthing flimsy like a brom stick or some softer wood would be non lethalish but a proper staff made form some sort of hard wood,ash hickory, oak, japanese white oak..... will be a very deadly weapon. The human body is a lot more frail than we are lead to believe.

The staff doesn't have to just be made of hardwood material to be leathal o.o You can so kick someone with wax wood staff or one made of Tung.

Weasel
20-Oct-2004, 01:19 PM
A nice, heavy maglight with a strap, because it can be taken anywhere. ANYWHERE. I might be wrong, but I am under the impression that they let you carry flaslights on planes, even large deadly flashlights. :D One downward strike from one of those would absolutely ruin an attacker's jaw (or shall we say 'the artist formerly known as his jaw'), and it has (IMO) several advantages over a knife.

1. Lights come out of pockets easily- there's nothing for a maglight to get caught on.
2. Once the flashlight is out, it's out. There's nothing you have to press or open to make it a deadly weapon.
3. There is a possibility that people won't register your flashlight as a weapon until it is too late. Not the same with a knife.
4. When you go to court, the prosecuting attorney will not be able to say "The knife-wielding psychopath smuggled a knife onto the aircraft..." It's a FLASHLIGHT. People who carry knives and knuckle-dusters give the impression that they are looking for fights. People who carry flashlights don't. By it's very nature, it looks like an improvised weapon, albeit one with the stopping power of an aluminum bat.

Cudgel
20-Oct-2004, 03:33 PM
OMFG
That jstu llike made me <CENSORED> my pants I like so need to get a maglight nd carry it. ive held some of the larger ons...heck I used have one of teh alrger ones...wonder where it went to.

Chingmann
20-Oct-2004, 05:45 PM
A nice, heavy maglight with a strap, because it can be taken anywhere. ANYWHERE. I might be wrong, but I am under the impression that they let you carry flaslights on planes, even large deadly flashlights. :D One downward strike from one of those would absolutely ruin an attacker's jaw (or shall we say 'the artist formerly known as his jaw'), and it has (IMO) several advantages over a knife.

1. Lights come out of pockets easily- there's nothing for a maglight to get caught on.
2. Once the flashlight is out, it's out. There's nothing you have to press or open to make it a deadly weapon.
3. There is a possibility that people won't register your flashlight as a weapon until it is too late. Not the same with a knife.
4. When you go to court, the prosecuting attorney will not be able to say "The knife-wielding psychopath smuggled a knife onto the aircraft..." It's a FLASHLIGHT. People who carry knives and knuckle-dusters give the impression that they are looking for fights. People who carry flashlights don't. By it's very nature, it looks like an improvised weapon, albeit one with the stopping power of an aluminum bat.

o.o....o.0......0.0.........OMG!!! a maglight is perfect!!! I think thats the most effective weapon you can use legally. Screw my 3-sectional-staves ^ ^ give me the luminous death-giver of the 21st century.

Weasel
20-Oct-2004, 06:24 PM
Hold it with the lighted end down, the long thin part resting on your shoulder, so that your forearm is protecting your neck and chin. Hammerfist anyone?

EDIT: I am now able to spell.

GeeniusAtWurk
20-Oct-2004, 06:30 PM
9 section chain whip gets my vote. doubles as a belt and is quite graceful, along with being the only weapon i've trained in.

Weasel
20-Oct-2004, 06:38 PM
:) You're still an "exotic weapon wielding psychopath" when they take you to court.

tekkengod
22-Oct-2004, 01:32 AM
a good pair of sai, great disarm ability, perfect defense. stab, slash, blunt strike, sai can do all three, beautiful weapons, its the only weapon i'm completely proficent with, i've trained with dual wakizashi as well as katana and escrima sticks, but not nearly as much.

Tankx1st
12-Nov-2004, 06:52 AM
since you guys mention "weapons im proficent in"

TekkenGod = Sais
GeeniusAtWurk = 9 section chain whip
and of course

Weasel = Maglite with Strap(which is a REALLY good idea :D , no lie)

the only weapon i'm proficent in actually is
just a nice aluminum Bat
Louisville Slugger

Just go "EY BUDDY!" *BOOM!*

Now Thats some Fantastic Damage right there :D

munkiejunkie
12-Nov-2004, 07:26 AM
two words. The ground

wing chun
12-Nov-2004, 12:27 PM
i too enjoy a nice stick for head smashy. but they lack a certain style. i'm training in niten two sword fighting. i think bokkens are cool like smashy sticks but with an eastern flare.

Raven_Firedrago
16-Nov-2004, 10:52 PM
Swordchucks! :D

~R.

shootodog
17-Nov-2004, 08:36 AM
pinute or barong or tabac or any bolo would do.

bastons regardless of whether they be rattan, kamagong, bahi or nara.

knife.

a nice badjac.

Chruffin
19-Nov-2004, 12:55 AM
It's gotta be the nunchaku! I'm not great with them yet but I'm nothing if not stubborn!

Though saying that, the Kubotan is pretty sweet too... easy to use and to conceal as well... :rolleyes:

tswolfman
20-Nov-2004, 01:21 AM
Bo Staff for sure good reach easy to get a hold of and good to keep dumb people away

akira2000
20-Nov-2004, 06:06 AM
Mini UZI, M203 with grenade launcher, M4 commando :D

Sgt_Major
23-Nov-2004, 09:10 AM
I recently purchased a set of these, and i have to they the best weapon ive ever trained with, even the guys in my club love them, i automatically switch off the concious brain and they become extensions of my hands....class

Cudgel
23-Nov-2004, 08:07 PM
um....I ahte to break it to you but those ARE NOT I repeat ARE NOT meant to be used for anything other than looking pretty. They have a chance of failing somewhere inside the handle around the tang I beleive. And they are made of unheat treated 420 stainless steel one of the lower grades of stainless steel bad idae for anything other than tableware.

Sgt_Major
23-Nov-2004, 09:19 PM
those are no restrictions to personal training.....theres no way id use them for contact training....they dont belong in my style....but they ARE my favourite weapon, which I believe is the point of the post.....not analysis of someone elses choice.....correct me if im wrong.

again i hate to say it, but its not polite to critise someones personal choice....but if thats what you get off on, who am i to stop you.....

Cudgel
23-Nov-2004, 11:49 PM
well....most wallhangers will break apart with any kind of use whether its jsut swingng them around in the air or hitting things.

Abd I was not critising your choice so much as poiting out a danger to yourself and bystanders.

Zach
23-Nov-2004, 11:54 PM
my favorite weapon right now is the Bo staff although im not very good with it yet :)

Stolenbjorn
24-Nov-2004, 09:49 AM
The ultimate weapon would be an ultra violent street-gang totally devoted to me! -or perhaps a loyer/law enforcer

Esgrimador
24-Nov-2004, 06:28 PM
European basket-hilted broadswords and backswords from the 16th-18th centuries, including:

Late German katzbalgers, circa 1545

English basket-hilts from the 1540s--aka "short swords"

Scottish basket-hilts from the late 16th century--aka "Irish" hilts, aka "Skottish short swords"

17th and 18th century Venetian schiavonas

Saber-bladed, basket-hilted Scottish turcaels

Equally lethal with edge or point, and with the best hand protection in the sword world.


The British 1796 pattern Light Cavalry Saber

One of the very best cutting swords ever made--the French were appalled by the way this weapon could sever heads and limbs.


Filipino talibong (talibon)

Wonderful, forward-swept blade and angled blade/hilt juncture.

Roman gladius Hispaniensis

Acutely pointed for thrusting, it nevertheless also swells at the center of percussion (COP), which makes it capable of severing limbs.

Iberian falcata

The quintessential forward-swept sword design, like a giant kukri.

The English quarterstaff--aka the "short staff"

Averaging around 8 or 9 feet in length, this simple piece of wood is superior to any sword (provided, at least, that you have the room to use it).

The Forest bill--aka the "Welsh hook"

One of the lightest of bladed polearms--it features a narrow bill-hook blade surmounted by a short spike, along with a separate long tine. Can be used for cutting, thrusting, and trapping. Considered by George Silver to be the most formidable of hand weapons.

The European two-handed sword, including the regional variants listed below:

The German zweihander, aka bidenhander--the classic two-handed sword of the landsknecht mercenaries.

The Italian spada da due mani, aka spadone--similar to its German relative

The Scottish "claymore"--often shorter, lighter, and faster than its Continental counterparts.

The Spanish espadon, aka montante--smaller even than a "claymore" this two-hander is more like of bastard sword, but of two-handed sword form and proportions

As the Italian fencing master Giacomo di Grassi noted, in his book from 1570, one man with a two-handed sword could deal with several men armed with one-handed swords.

Cudgel
24-Nov-2004, 08:12 PM
it looks like we have yet another WMAist at MAP
<insert loud cheering here>

Stolenbjorn
25-Nov-2004, 10:54 AM
As the Italian fencing master Giacomo di Grassi noted, in his book from 1570, one man with a two-handed sword could deal with several men armed with one-handed swords. Do you practice/study any WMA-manuals? If so; which?

(I study Fior di Battaglia)

-And, yes; welcome WMA'er, hope you have time to check out the zweihenderthreads on this weapons-subforum, and that you have somthing to add to them!

Esgrimador
25-Nov-2004, 01:17 PM
Stolenbjorn,

Do you practice/study any WMA-manuals? If so; which?

I do not formally study from any single manual, though I am partial to anything that I can readily digest in an English translation. I am most definitely an advocate of the writings of George Silver, who was one of the greatest martial artists of all time, IMO. His Paradoxes of Defence (1599) and Brief Instructions Upon My Paradoxes of Defence (circa 1605) are excellent books. However, I enjoy researching and interpreting from a wide range of treatises, from the 15th-19th centuries (with my main focus being on the 15th-16th centuries). I should also stress that my interest in period fencing manuals is directly tied in with my love of military history, and my research of each goes hand-in-hand.

(I study Fior di Battaglia)

Excellent--the Flos Duellatorum of the great master from Friuli (a very violent part of Italy at that time), Fiore dei Liberi.

-And, yes; welcome WMA'er, hope you have time to check out the zweihenderthreads on this weapons-subforum, and that you have somthing to add to them!

Can you provide links to any specific threads?

Thanks,

E

Esgrimador
25-Nov-2004, 02:11 PM
Well, I found one big three-page thread--are there any others? :)

ZenPolice
25-Nov-2004, 02:39 PM
My favorite (this week) is the Chinese broadsword, a.k.a. darn dao. I go through phases, but I usually come back to this swift, graceful and effective weapon. I like the katana for sheer beauty and elegance, but I still prefer the feel of the dao.

In a self-defense situation, there is no weapon I would rather have than a pair of sticks. Even though I am mainly a kung-fu practitioner and have a relatively small amount of arnis training, I am more comfortable with sticks than any other weapon.

Finally, my third weapon of choice is the three-sectional staff. This is a highly versatile weapon which can be used close-in or at long range. If I had to face a group of attackers, this is the weapon I would want in my hands (assuming an uzi was out of the question).

akira2000
25-Nov-2004, 02:46 PM
My favirite weapon is.......................brain :D

craftsman
07-May-2005, 03:15 AM
How about a "Carreau" with a 730 gram Petanque boule?

Not normally considered to be a weapon, but very formidable and intimidating if you are "le Cochinet"!

Stolenbjorn
09-May-2005, 08:02 AM
My favirite weapon is.......................brain :DCan you direct me to any Dojos teaching Brainwielding?

Cougar_v203
31-May-2005, 03:10 AM
knife..nuff said.

Albert
31-May-2005, 03:26 AM
The sword is the most effective weapon.

I like to practice with nunchaku too.

Ok i take back the sword comment, the toilet paper roll used in the art of toilet-paper-fu is really the best weapon.

Helena Handbask
31-May-2005, 03:27 AM
My fists, a weapon that can't be turned against me! :)

Doublejab
01-Jun-2005, 12:51 AM
Nunchucks. Theyjust flow sometimes, after awhile you don't even know what move you are going to do with them, it just happens.

Great for coordination and if you strap the wrist weights on they provide a really superb muscular workout.

I just love em, like the staff and tan tao as well but I think the chucks will always be my weapon.

bum-eyes
09-Jun-2005, 02:54 AM
Dai-Katana! Mwahahahaha :D

Florida Warlock
09-Jun-2005, 03:06 AM
I'd have to say the staff is my favorite. I also really like hook swords.

I'm not an expert, but I doubt you can accurately select a 'most effective weapon'. Sai are formadible against bos, however not very effective against nunchaku. Every weapon has both a greater adversary and a lesser.

However some weapons are more lethal than others, or are, at least, easier to get a kill shot with. In this case, a bladed weapon would be the most effective (you don't have to aim for specific places... you can just hack away :) ). This is still an extensive category, though. The sword is a favorite of many. There is also the Kwan Dao, and the fighting fan is an elegant but deadly weapon.

karate P.belt 2
09-Jun-2005, 05:24 AM
tough desiscion
bo, sai, tonfa, and sword
I don't have proper training with all of them but I do have self-training

tekkengod
09-Jun-2005, 06:06 AM
Albert. you won't be saying that when you try usinga sword against a proficent Sai weilder. :D

you'll be bleeding and looking for your sword!!! :)

Cudgel
09-Jun-2005, 06:10 AM
id gladly take on a sai weilder with my greatsword. When he tangles up my sowrd ill pull dager and stab him :D

tekkengod
09-Jun-2005, 06:13 AM
:cry: so cruel. ist it stored in the handle?

not if i can manage to parry your ass and stab you in the throat!!! :D

Cudgel
09-Jun-2005, 06:19 AM
wel asi wont be using my ass to fightg i got lost.......
a dagger stored in a handle HAHAHAHAhAHAhA so not right. tricks liek that are peopl who cant fight. Ill just huck the sword with you sai tangled in teh cross and run away like a pansy and trow rocks in stead.
Good old rock nothign beats rock, unless its a bigger rock.

Stolenbjorn
09-Jun-2005, 07:25 AM
Tekkengod; here's a reply to your sai vs greatsword that is not in sillymodus :rolleyes: :
I think greatsword will winn (statistically, both users are equally good in fighting, etc. etc.)

Why?

Because of reach; a greatsword i around 1,6 meters (or even sligthly longer; that equals roughly 65 inches, while a sai is shorter; (25 cm/10 inches?)

Because of halfswording: A greatswordwielder can go to halfswording, and still have at least 20 inches of blade in front of the hand closest to you. In this position, he negates the speedadvantage you have (because of the leveridge given by having the hands placed as far as 30 inches apart (held a bit like a quarterstaff, and for those of you not familiar with greatswords and the consept of halfswording, think of staff-fighting, only that the saff is of sharp steel...)

Because of strength: Because of the above mentioned leveridge, the greatswrodwielder will be able to power through most of your guards/stances.

Because of options: You have basically one option (apart from running away) and that is to block and close in. The greatswordwielder will know this, and make his precautions. He have several options, to keep you at distance with stabbing and retreating, to close in on you in halfswording, to stay at a distance and try to chop your arms off when you decide to enter, etc (both of you can opt to throw your weapons as a diversive attack, btw, but that's cind of staking all on one card).

Because of protection: I don't know why, but WHY DO JAPANEESE HATE PROPER HANDPROTECION ON THEIR BLADED WEAPONS???? I will never understand this, and in a fight between a sai and a greatsword, the sai will be much lousier at hoocking and stopping the greatswrodblade than-say a medieval european dagger, that have a crossguard calibrated and shaped for trapping and handeling serious force.

tekkengod
09-Jun-2005, 05:47 PM
Stolenbjorn: you have to remember a Sai is usually an extreamly high quality weapon {if you look around} because it is so highly defensive and was designed specifically to deal with swords. and the sai is custom made to the length of the users forearm nad then an inch. {15-23 inches} Mine are 20 1/2 inches. you seem to underestimate the Sai in terms of trapping and weapon locking. it is a very strong weapon. also, as far as throwinga great sword. feel free, easy to block, {might scare the hell out of most people} but easy to block, and now you are unarmed, you can throw a Sai very quickly with great accuracy and still have a weapon, also Sai are usually weilded in a trio, one in the waist band or on the back. I think you also underestimate the speed and offensive power {yes, even with a highly defensive weapon} in the hands of a competent, proficent weilder. The Sai is in my opinion, one of the most effective weapons ever made. I have sparred with all sorts of sword weilders while using sai {practice weapons of course} Great Sword, Straight Sword, spring steel lion head. Double blade. Katana. the only time i lost was against a bud weilding a pair of wakizashi. point being, trust me. the sai can more than handle most swords.

Cudgel
10-Jun-2005, 03:05 AM
the reference to throwing the greatsword was when you deicde to block with the sais. I could use the prongs and get them locked up with the crossgaurd and siderings. Once you get locked up, which happens realy easily I know from experience, I toss teh sword with your weapon(s) locked up and proscede to pummel you or stab you repeatedly with my dagger. Never mind I would loe to see someone block a 4 to 7 pound hunk of sharp steel being hurled at their head. :D that and I doubt the greatsword weilders you have sparred with study the martial arts asociated with it. I do and so does stolenbjorn, although my art is better suited than his, no offence Stolenbjorn.
And while I have not had the chance to saprr with a sai weilder I have gone against people using two swors/daggers or varying lengths
Suc a pity you live in Texas. iouwld so love to sapr with you,friendly mind you blood tends to make carbon steels rust like mad.

Peace
Ohand I dont doubt that sai can handle swords, seing how a jitte, which is a one pronged sai looking thing was used by poplice in Japan during teh feudal period to disarm or break rowdy samurai's swords.

tekkengod
10-Jun-2005, 06:05 AM
hmm...you are right, i don't think i'll have too much blocking it if thrown full force at my body.

but when you say lock up BOTH of my Sai, i have to throw that idea out the window.
you may manage to lock that with a novice, but not a competent user.
and remember that they are weilded in trios. or a quad set. good luck getting off such a lock twice, let alone once. Fortunately i've never had too much of a problem dealing with long reach weapons, i've delt with alot of Kendo and Iao guys as well as a few Thaunga-Ta guys, i will say that fighting a Halbred or Pole Arm with a pair of Sai is an up hill battle to understate. but it can be done. I have been lucky enough to spar some Great Sword weilders that were semi-proficent, but nothing out of the ordinary. I would love to spar you and Stolenbjorn as well, i'd have to bring out all my weapons and experiment :D
no worries, i spar full contact MMA and MT most times, but any time weapons are involved, i'm a safety advocate, i try not to make a habit of getting stabbed and slashed on a weekly basis :)

if you get the chance, spar with a proficent Sai weilder, you'll enjoy it, the speed, fluidity and power keeps everyone on their toes, and everyone always tells me how much fun it is to work against them. Sparring against a pair of short swords is i suppose the best alternative, but lack the whole lock up and added length.

I used Jutte in the past, but i just didn't like them, there was always that side of my forearm that felt naked.

Cudgel
11-Jun-2005, 06:33 AM
I think I am a little more than semi proficent with a greatsword. Not to be a braggert or anyhitng, im pretty sure I could get owned very easily by someone else but back with my last group I was considered to be a master with it adn the guy to go to if you wanted tolearn it. Which is strange because I honestly suck. But my groups had never ever had someone who used a greatsword it was meant to be used, and even then i didnt use it fully the way it shold be. A greatsowrd has a wicked fast stright on one handed thrust. I could probably hit somonthing a good ten or more feet away.

Shadow_of_Evil
11-Jun-2005, 12:47 PM
Would be the katana for me.
Yeah, very cliche, but I've been learning to use one since I was a wee child...literaly.
It's the one I'd take into a fight more than anything else.

TwIsT
11-Jun-2005, 02:29 PM
Slap Gloves, i havent read the entire thread so i dont know if they are mentioned but they are heavy gloves with metal bars(Smaller ones) thru the fingers and knuckles, and some tend to have claws or Talons at the figer tips and along the fingers themelves. Would prove handy towards my Close style of MA...

tekkengod
11-Jun-2005, 06:32 PM
you could always go for the other option....

Inject your gloves with mercury.

Cudgel
12-Jun-2005, 02:13 AM
yeah mercury is heavy stuff and it would form fit to your hand in the glove, never mind that its a rather insidious etal will seep through the glowe given teh chance.
And I always thought that sap gloves used lead powered or pellets for teh weight.

Stolenbjorn
13-Jun-2005, 07:25 AM
Stolenbjorn: you have to remember a Sai is usually an extreamly high quality weapon {if you look around} because it is so highly defensive and was designed specifically to deal with swords. As were the medieval daggers that most greatswordwielders train against. (Meaning that the surprise-factor of beeing able to block and close is lost, as a proper greatswordwielder will have had hours of sparring vs. sai'ish weapons) and the sai is custom made to the length of the users forearm nad then an inch. {15-23 inches} As were the medieval daggers that most greatswordwielders train against.
you seem to underestimate the Sai in terms of trapping and weapon locking. it is a very strong weapon.
NO, you seem to underestimate the fact that any proper longswordwielder will dedicate much attention and training on sai'ish weapons, and will know perfectly well the sai's capabilities and limitations. I've been sparring for 4 years with both daggers and longswords (+grappeling), and if both parties are of equal skill, it's only the weapons advantages and disadvantages that matters, and there, the long/greatsword comes out on top, and the reasons why, I described above.

also Sai are usually weilded in a trio, one in the waist band or on the back. -and a greatsword cannot be wielded together with a duo/trio of daggers :rolleyes:
I think you also underestimate the speed and offensive power {yes, even with a highly defensive weapon} in the hands of a competent, proficent weilder. -and again, you seem to forget that if we let the greatswordwielder be as competent as your sai wielder for a change, and don't get hoocked up on what hollywood teach us about an averidge greatswordwielders capabilities, you'll realize that speed gets you nowhere, as the one with the longest weapon have the shortest way to go and is equally fast as you. The fact that you don't believe/don't comprehend my previous post's argument; conserning the greatsword wielded in "half-sword"; prooves to me that it indeed is YOU that stand for the underestimating here :p

The Sai is in my opinion, one of the most effective weapons ever made. I have sparred with all sorts of sword weilders while using sai {practice weapons of course} Great Sword, Straight Sword, spring steel lion head. Double blade. Katana. the only time i lost was against a bud weilding a pair of wakizashi. point being, trust me. the sai can more than handle most swords. Well, you must be very good, then, congratulations :rolleyes:

This sort of "I'm very good"-arguments are sort of ...not apealing to me. How can I know that what you say is true?

I've been sparring vs. daggerwielders a lot but I usually beat the crap out of them (-now what does that tell you? Either I lie, or I excaggerate, or I only sparr with crap daggerwielders, or I'm very good, that makes 25% reason for believing me).

Allso remember that most longswordwielders don't want to go to the electrical chair, just to proove their worth.... If a longswordwielder really wanted to kill you, he'd be capable of delivering blows that are quite hard, so hard, that in medieval manuals most daggerblocks against longswordattacks are shown and recomended with both hands on the dagger, one hand on the grip and one hand on the tip of the blade.... (And this is not be bragging, it's taken directly from authentic daggermanuals from around year 1410 - 1550 ad.) This is the problem with the great/long-swords (or in fact all the swords you brag about beein capable of winning over with your sai); they have to be controlled, or they kill you, and that makes them go a bit slower than they would, and that again makes it easier for you to take them out, as a little sai is easy to controll, and you thus can go at faster speeds that your swordwielding opponents.

Esgrimador
14-Jun-2005, 04:20 AM
I have sparred with all sorts of sword weilders while using sai {practice weapons of course} Great Sword, Straight Sword, spring steel lion head. Double blade. Katana. the only time i lost was against a bud weilding a pair of wakizashi.

LOL...

I can only surmise that the other fellows you bouted against had no friggin' idea what they were doing.

gpinkert
14-Jun-2005, 08:24 AM
I've only been studying it recently but the jian sword(tai chi sword) I find to be extremely effective. Although it requires a lot more footwork and the use of the weapon is a bit different then the katana which is what I've been studying. But it's a lot of fun, good amount of range, excellent speed.

Stolenbjorn
14-Jun-2005, 01:54 PM
I've only been studying it recently but the jian sword(tai chi sword) I find to be extremely effective. Although it requires a lot more footwork and the use of the weapon is a bit different then the katana which is what I've been studying. But it's a lot of fun, good amount of range, excellent speed.What's the size, weight, shape, balance? Do you have pics? Do you use it in combination with dagger/shield/wresteling, or is it "pure" sparring-techniques you learn?

Cudgel
14-Jun-2005, 08:08 PM
I dont Jian are taught with the use of a defensive secondary weapon, ie sheilds or daggers.Its a one handed sword and thats it. And usually not a very long one at that. That reminds though. On a naother forum this guy who studies fiore says it bears a striking simlarity to a form of tai chi. Think of a jain as a side sword or arming sword.

dadder12
18-Jun-2005, 06:20 PM
i would say two knives, strapped to my palms, so i could throw or push at the same time as stabby stabby :D
i would also be able to hold a staff at the same time.

bum-eyes
19-Jun-2005, 10:48 AM
Dai-Katana! Mwahahahaha :DOkay, I probably wouldn't have the strength to handle one of those(hell, I have trouble controlling an average-size katana). TBH I'd prefer a taiaha.

thepunisher
19-Jun-2005, 10:55 AM
PLEASE WITH THIS ONE - it is for a melee weapon no guns (Us UK boys cant play with them) and also not my hands are my weapons as we all know and agree with this!ALSO
What is in your mind the most effective weapon and why????
Over to you all!


My absolute favorite weapons are sais. Having watched black belts do a bo and a sai kata in our dojo I've got to say there are the most amazing weapons to use if you know how to use them. Throwing and stabbing weapons as well as that you can use the handle to knock someone out as well.....

Concerning effectiveness....I haven't been MA's for long enough but judging by the MA's movies I've watched I would say the bo staff.

Christian

Peng Mao Rong
19-Jun-2005, 02:09 PM
Hanbo.

JinkokMike
24-Jun-2005, 08:21 AM
Nunchuku because it's so fluid in it's movements and very quick.However it takes a lot of practice to be able to control the nunchuku very effectively.

TheDarkJester
27-Jun-2005, 07:26 PM
Rope dart.. modified to be longer (15' long) with a dart on each end.. one for striking up close with my free hand and the other on the end to throw it out, entangle, strangle, slice, dice, and even liquify... :)

KSprenk
27-Jun-2005, 08:18 PM
Bo, i have trained the most with it so I am probably best with it, either that or a bokken.

Cougar_v203
27-Jun-2005, 09:15 PM
Rope dart.. modified to be longer (15' long) with a dart on each end.. one for striking up close with my free hand and the other on the end to throw it out, entangle, strangle, slice, dice, and even liquify... :)
liquify? how would that work? besides it takes the fun out of hearing your weapon scrap against your opponents skin :D

Juego Todo
27-Jun-2005, 10:39 PM
1) Buntot pagi: The tail of a stingray or mantaray (or similar sea-animal). In the Philippines, one method of preparing one as a defensive weapon of sorts is to let it dry in the sun, but by putting sections of bamboo within the tail first while it's still flexible. Once it dries, you have a weapon better than a whip. It's used to fend off attack dogs, etc. It's extremely painful & it also inflicts some kinds of nasty skin infections or diseases;

2) A simple stainless-steel fork: Bringing a spoon, knife and fork to work in your lunch bag or briefcase can later be of use to you. It's not an illegal or restricted weapon. It's an everyday utensil used for eating. There wouldn't be suspicion as to why you'd be carrying with you. The tines of the fork can cause just the right amount of damage in the hands of a FMA practitioner or anyone else for that matter.

TheDarkJester
27-Jun-2005, 11:53 PM
liquify? how would that work? besides it takes the fun out of hearing your weapon scrap against your opponents skin :D

Well if you were ninja you should've gotten the exploding dart memo...

Did you not get the memo?!

Jesh
28-Jun-2005, 04:33 PM
A couple of sticks or stick and knife... :D

Blast
17-Jan-2009, 12:50 PM
The nunchaku. fast, cool, fluid movements. Can't think of anything that looks better.

komuso
23-Jan-2009, 01:39 AM
I'm going to go with the falcata, just because it looks scary, so much so that it even used to worry the romans. And given that I think that being in an actual sword fight would be about as terrifying as it gets I would want to be lugging around something that has the best chance of getting the other guy to just leg it before a blow had been struck.

And it looks cool :-)

Kurtka Jerker
23-Jan-2009, 03:02 AM
Just about any sort of spear above six feet long. Any shorter and keeping distance gets difficult.

Ashiro
20-Feb-2009, 01:16 PM
Outdoors - Bo and sword.
Indoors - Hanbo and sword.

DaeHanL
20-Feb-2009, 01:19 PM
bolo/machete. it feels like part of me when i use it.

Southpaw535
20-Feb-2009, 03:26 PM
a lamp

Jang Bong
20-Feb-2009, 11:09 PM
Standard (used as a bo), Angle Poise (used as a nunchaku or tonfa), or one of those heavy home-made beggers that started life as a giant whisky bottle?

[If your answer is 'Lava Lamp', I really don't think I want to know how you use it]


:D

Southpaw535
20-Feb-2009, 11:13 PM
hey man i just wrote lamp. although a lava ones not a bad idea....
no on a serious note my favourite weapon(non MA) would be an extendable baton
inside MA probably a tonfa

koyo
20-Feb-2009, 11:17 PM
Standard (used as a bo), Angle Poise (used as a nunchaku or tonfa), or one of those heavy home-made beggers that started life as a giant whisky bottle?

[If your answer is 'Lava Lamp', I really don't think I want to know how you use it]


:D

A giant whiskey bottle..but I get him to drink the whiskey first.

regards koyo

Southpaw535
20-Feb-2009, 11:19 PM
who was it who wrote "by them a nice beer in a frosted mug. then smash their fac ein with it"

koyo
20-Feb-2009, 11:28 PM
who was it who wrote "by them a nice beer in a frosted mug. then smash their fac ein with it"

Sounds Scottish to me..Rabbie Burns???


regards koyo

Kogusoku
21-Feb-2009, 02:41 AM
A 14lb sledgehammer and a smile.

Brad66
21-Feb-2009, 02:43 AM
I would have to say the sword or the staff.

Langenschwert
21-Feb-2009, 07:35 AM
a lamp

I love lamp.

YouTube - Lamp

-Mark

koyo
21-Feb-2009, 07:38 AM
The jo is the most effective for me given it's flexibility and ranges BUT the sword is best suited to my nature..more decisive.

regards koyo

Southpaw535
21-Feb-2009, 01:42 PM
i dont suppose anyone knows the name for a 3 piece staff? I remember seeing it on some sciency MA programme ages ago. It was like a 3-piece bo length nunchuk thingy

Ashiro
21-Feb-2009, 01:46 PM
i dont suppose anyone knows the name for a 3 piece staff? I remember seeing it on some sciency MA programme ages ago. It was like a 3-piece bo length nunchuk thingy
Sanjeigun - Three section staff is the English name. In Japan its called a sansetsukon.
In Kanji: 三節棍

Southpaw535
21-Feb-2009, 01:47 PM
thankyou

Jang Bong
21-Feb-2009, 07:14 PM
From the Korean side, the Nunchaku where Chule Bong (two or twin staff) making the 3-section staff Sam Bong (Sir Google tends towards Sam Dan Bong - maybe we were being lazy).

Our instructor used to have us use this weapon as a test of confidence and commitment :) We had to decide if we wanted the head protection or not ;)

Yours sincerely - Long Staff ;)

Kenpo_Amnesiac
28-Mar-2009, 04:43 PM
i like the nunchaku. simple to hide. It seems that a lot of people like swords but a katana can be too easily seen. It is said that in the old days of okinawa that the peasants were forbiden to carry weapons so i like the simple easily consealbe weapons... ie- nunchakus, tonfas, and the bo staff.
Some people might say that a bo can't be easily consealed but if a peasant is seen with a staff across the back of his/her shoulders with a pail of water/ or vegtables on each end the "authorities" might not consider that it can be used as a weapon.

ap Oweyn
29-Mar-2009, 01:47 PM
Some people might say that a bo can't be easily consealed but if a peasant is seen with a staff across the back of his/her shoulders with a pail of water/ or vegtables on each end the "authorities" might not consider that it can be used as a weapon.

Yeah, but that only explains why a bo could be easily concealed in medieval Okinawa. If I saw some bloke walking around with a 6' oak staff in modern day DC, I'd be thinking "bo staff." Followed swiftly by some mental references to Napolean Dynamite. :)

Moi
29-Mar-2009, 03:07 PM
There is a way

ludde
29-Mar-2009, 09:46 PM
Whats a bo staff? A staff staff, one in each hand? Yes I am being sarcastic.

CanFightIt
30-Mar-2009, 11:23 AM
Nun-chucks are great to show off and if you practise you can really hurt people with them but they aren't that effective and are hard to carry around.

Switchblade knifes are good too, peoples eyes always light up when you swing one out and makes the "swish swish" sound.

But my fave is this batten I used to have, it was small but big enough to hurt. The other great thing about this batten is it had a knife blade inside it, as the end of the batten screwed off and you screwed the end back on for a fixed blade, it was very cool!

Stickgrappler
01-Apr-2009, 05:55 PM
a stick for all around weapon as effective... but there are so many factors to consider, are you fighting in a phonebooth? in that case, a 26-36" stick/baton/cane is not as effective... know what i mean?

i also love a pocket stick. very very useful for self-defense situations.

TheMightyMcClaw
02-Apr-2009, 09:47 PM
i like the nunchaku. simple to hide. It seems that a lot of people like swords but a katana can be too easily seen. It is said that in the old days of okinawa that the peasants were forbiden to carry weapons so i like the simple easily consealbe weapons... ie- nunchakus, tonfas, and the bo staff.
Some people might say that a bo can't be easily consealed but if a peasant is seen with a staff across the back of his/her shoulders with a pail of water/ or vegtables on each end the "authorities" might not consider that it can be used as a weapon.
:bang:
:bang:

Why on earth would you be concealing a katana or nunchaku on your presence in the first place? In case your ambushed by ninjas while on your way to the grocery store?
This thread makes me cry.

Langenschwert
02-Apr-2009, 09:56 PM
In case your ambushed by ninjas while on your way to the grocery store?

Happened to me on the way to band camp. You're reading it on the internet, so it must be true. I would have been toast, except for the pirates who showed up and backed me up. I then proceeded to disable said ninja with a wooden spoon and took their clarinets, for they were on the way to band camp too.

Best regards,

-Mark

N.B. The ninja had clarinets because clarinets are black and therefore are more deadly and ninja-esque. No ninja would ever use a brass instrument because they're too shiny. Some ninja clans have been known to use the English Horn, but they are a rarity these days outside Japan. Just in case you wanted to know.

komuso
03-Apr-2009, 12:56 AM
BUSTED!

you clearly know NOTHING about ninja horn players! Everyone knows that they use tubas exclusively.

But only as projectile weapons.

If they wanted to hit you with something it would definately have been tubular bells.

Although they are admittedly hard to source in traditional ninja matt black.

paul

Moi
03-Apr-2009, 01:05 AM
a stick for all around weapon as effective... but there are so many factors to consider, are you fighting in a phonebooth?.

Do they still have them?:confused:

jaspertjie
19-Apr-2009, 11:34 AM
My favorite weapon has to be the Katana. I have created some ideas for good swords for my own martial art too. Of them I mostly like the Kulinor Geccen.

Joseph1608
28-Apr-2009, 09:31 PM
ninja-to/sword, because they are awesome

progdan
29-Apr-2009, 08:35 AM
At this stage I'd have to say my Eskrima Rattan... Mainly because that's the only one I've really been trained in... haha.

I do very much like the concept of the staff, and also the short-stick, which can fit in your pocket, sounds like a very handy piece of equipment.

Kobudo-man
06-May-2009, 02:57 AM
why are we even worrying about concealing bos when the obvious concealed staff weapon is the sword cane

https://www.swordsofmight.com/ProductImages/swordcanes/Gentlemans_Sword_Cane.jpg

my favorite would probably be sai though. There's just somethin about how I feel with them... Sword cane ftw as the best though!

shootodog
06-May-2009, 07:49 AM
Yeah, but that only explains why a bo could be easily concealed in medieval Okinawa.
no, they were just handy at that time really.

If I saw some bloke walking around with a 6' oak staff in modern day DC, I'd be thinking "bo staff." Followed swiftly by some mental references to Napolean Dynamite. :)

i mean c'mon stuart! it's DC for holly's sake!!! it's a strange place where strange things happen (like bogus intelligence reports that prompt a nation to go to war). a bo weilding guy walking around should look normal enough!

Shaolin-Fighter
14-Jul-2009, 05:20 AM
my weapons of choice would be:

short range- nunchaku, as long as you don't snap it back it'll do a heck load of damage to your opponent.

medium range- chinese straightsword, easily cut a few tendons here and there :)

long range- kwan tao, "kwan kuen takes a 1,000 heads," all i've got to say.

but my favorite weapon for anything really would be a sea dragon cane, which basically is a shorter version of the bo staff.

windtalker
31-Jul-2009, 05:36 AM
There is a matter of consideration about what the weapon is used for. If this is a general question then my compund bow wins hands down. While it's an excellent hunting weapon the bow is not so practical for using in a fight. Then I would have to say a knife. Many of the weapons commonly associated with the martial arts are not even legal to carry in many states. Here in Ky. things like a Katana or throwing stars are illegal for carry. Besides a number of those martial art type weapons are fairly large and would be difficult to conceal. The knife has proved a formidable weapon since the dawn of time and probably always will.

fakii
15-Aug-2009, 05:47 AM
butterfly swords , Kali knoves and Ninja katana and other ninja stuff. coz they r the best for assassination for win the battle. ^_-

surrealism
20-Aug-2009, 05:00 AM
fans cause they are different, perhaps not the best weapon out there but we are talking about what you like the most.

also hook swords they are like metal hand extensions.

fakii
20-Aug-2009, 05:27 AM
fans cause they are different, perhaps not the best weapon out there but we are talking about what you like the most.

also hook swords they are like metal hand extensions.


Well in that case i would like double black ninja swords and if its possible ( rocket luncer + M18 + Sinper + remote control bombs & mines) LMAO
wahahaha jus kiddin..

double black ninja swords + Shurikens & Clouds's sword ( that he used in final fantasy) 3 awords in 1. thats all

Kuma
23-Aug-2009, 09:54 AM
Traditional-wise, I love the tonfa. I started off loving the kusari fundo, then the bo and jo. Now I'm absolutely loving the tonfa, I think they're a fantastic weapon with tons of possibilties.

Modern-wise, I love Glocks but only because I still haven't gotten to shoot a 1911A1 Colt .45 yet. Once I do I might have to call the engagement off with Glocks.

dortiz
23-Aug-2009, 04:33 PM
AA12 Assault shotgun!

adouglasmhor
24-Aug-2009, 05:59 AM
AA12 Assault shotgun!
Did you even read the 1st post in the thread?

Dave Humm
24-Aug-2009, 07:54 AM
Need I say more ? :-)

Gojushinki
22-Sep-2009, 01:14 AM
Nice katana man, Masahiro? Looks just like mine upon close inspection.

Although i do like the idea of a katana, it just doesn't seem practical. In a confined space or if the enemy has a faster weapon (such as a shorter sword), i'm almost positive i would lose. I would always go with either a wakizashi, or a stick of a similar size (about 1 1/2 to 2 feet). Not too long, not too short, lightweight and effective.

As for the most effective weapon? The mind, simple as that.

lominna
22-Sep-2009, 06:18 PM
Gotta agree with Gojushinki about the mind. If you lose that, then favorite weapons are no longer your biggest concern.:)

My favorite weapon is probably my cane (guns were excluded from this thread, and anyway, they have greater legal problems than other weapons even in the freest states). Canes are affordable and are legal, likely even in England. I've taken it on airliners several times. They just xrayed it to be sure there was no sword or gun hidden inside. It has more range than my kicks, and isn't affected by wind the way my pepper-spray, another good weapon, is. No one has ever questioned why I might need this 'medical device', but if they did I could truthfully say that I sometimes have joint pain in knees, ankles, or sciatica.

Pocket knives are handy for lots of everyday chores unrelated to defense, so I've usually had one since boyhood, but they're not allowed everywhere. My dog is a good friend for the whole family and probably helps keep us nicer people, but she has a mind of her own and might or might not help fight against an attacker. Martial art is something they can't confiscate anywhere, but as was said, it's a given at this website. So cane it is.

ludde
23-Sep-2009, 06:52 AM
Although i do like the idea of a katana, it just doesn't seem practical. In a confined space or if the enemy has a faster weapon (such as a shorter sword), i'm almost positive i would lose. I would always go with either a wakizashi, or a stick of a similar size (about 1 1/2 to 2 feet). Not too long, not too short, lightweight and effective.

As for the most effective weapon? The mind, simple as that.

Wel if your mind is positive that you will lose, then you are ****ed anyway.

brotherinarms
03-Nov-2009, 06:27 PM
i would choose a katana they might not be the most practical in every situation but i just like the history, the craftsmanship and the looks.

was checking some out before cant afford it but i would love this as an investment!

http://www.casiberia.com/images/products/big/SH2185.jpg

Bronze Statue
04-Nov-2009, 02:55 AM
i would choose a katana they might not be the most practical in every situation but i just like the history, the craftsmanship and the looks.

was checking some out before cant afford it but i would love this as an investment!

http://www.casiberia.com/images/products/big/SH2185.jpg

Be careful. It's a consumer item, not an investment, especially since it's just a Chinese-made production sword and not a nihontô with any art value (and even dealing in those in a manner that would lend itself to a sword's being an investment will require serious study of nihontô).

brotherinarms
04-Nov-2009, 07:23 AM
cheers for heads up, im reading up on what i can but still need to learn more, theirs a lot of things to know haha!

Griffin
04-Nov-2009, 09:46 AM
Tonfa for defense.. I think the LAPD call them P.34 Battons, thats a pretty good reason i would say, and i dont wanna say something i dont own or cant use.
Short double daggers come to mind but we aint talking killing spree are we lol so yeah Tonfa :)

Griffin
05-Nov-2009, 03:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B6FEF927AD8F2DB3


Some of the best clips around ive seen so far.

Dragonfly
05-Nov-2009, 07:59 PM
nunchaku

YouTube- 013 Ninja nunchaku basics

Dean Winchester
05-Nov-2009, 10:05 PM
You really shouldn't give that guy the publicity you know...

Haste
05-Nov-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm no weapon fighter, but I have to say that short swords (like machetes) and knives are my favorite. One good hack and all that pesky brush is destroyed. The knife is great because it's a tool as well. A true survival tool.

Never had them or tried them, but I'd like to get a pair of bladed brass knuckles. I think they would be absolutely devastating in a melee fight. Brutal!

-Haste

brotherinarms
06-Nov-2009, 01:15 AM
wow ive never seen someone spam so much!! ^^^

edit: this post was here because of a spammer who's post has now magically disappeared haha!!

Kobudo-man
06-Nov-2009, 02:11 AM
not on here anyways. I hope someone stops him soon.

ScottUK
09-Nov-2009, 10:23 AM
Never had them or tried them, but I'd like to get a pair of bladed brass knuckles. I think they would be absolutely devastating in a melee fight. Brutal!I wish I lived in a fantasy world.

Kogusoku
09-Nov-2009, 01:16 PM
nunchaku

YouTube- 013 Ninja nunchaku basics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPLzW-IxgZs)

I should close this thread just for having this disgrace the weapons forum. :mad:

ScottUK
09-Nov-2009, 01:33 PM
Do it, Mr D. This thread is nothing but a juvenile conversation anyway.

Kogusoku
09-Nov-2009, 01:38 PM
Do it, Mr D. This thread is nothing but a juvenile conversation anyway.

I am half tempted.

Dragonfly
09-Nov-2009, 02:14 PM
I should close this thread just for having this disgrace the weapons forum. :mad:

what does this have to do with me????
i just sad my favo weapon (nunchaku) with a vid what i thought was good...
:Angel:

ScottUK
09-Nov-2009, 02:17 PM
How can a Choson Ninja vid be considered as anything other than male bovine excreta?

Dragonfly
09-Nov-2009, 02:30 PM
is this about that guy or the weapon or me?!

Dean Winchester
09-Nov-2009, 02:33 PM
All of the above. :evil:

Don't mind Scott he has a problem with those types of vids and posts, it comes from having a good solid background, knowing what he's talking about, and having very skilled teachers.

komuso
10-Nov-2009, 11:18 PM
"This thread is nothing but a juvenile conversation anyway..."

which we would all seem to be reading none the less.... :-)

It's ok though, MAP is full of guilty pleasures, it's why most of us use psuedonyms.

paul

shuyun3
11-Nov-2009, 02:33 PM
:bang:
:bang:

Why on earth would you be concealing a katana or nunchaku on your [person] in the first place? In case your ambushed by ninjas while on your way to the grocery store?
This thread makes me cry.

He's immortal and he liable to get his head cut off. "There can be only one."

Kogusoku
11-Nov-2009, 05:54 PM
I think that's the straw that broke the camel's back.