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harukoraharu
11-May-2011, 10:43 PM
Is there any supplement I can add to water to make my own rapid rehydration drink? I got a bad foot cramp about 2/3 of the way into my training earlier tonight. It was pretty embarrassing, couldn't move for about 10 minutes. I had the runs yesterday and with me sweating a lot was too low in sodium/ electrolyte levels.

I'm a bit prone to IBS and the runs so would need to prepare for this over the warmer months so although this was the first time at this gym I think it likely to happen again.

The only really helpful/on-topic thread that is recent is this one (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1207181#post1207181), but most of the products are drinks I've never heard of so probably not available in the UK. The drinks are okay but expensive, if needed more frequently. I know it's possibly less than some people spend on protein supplements though I have been considering a little bit of post-workout supplement too.

Moi
11-May-2011, 10:55 PM
Salt will work. Water at room temperature not chilled helps as well

IBS sucks hey. Developed it a couple of years ago due to stress. Having to get up extra early to go to work is no fun.

harukoraharu
11-May-2011, 10:57 PM
how much (table) salt would you add to say a 500ml bottle of water?

I think I have enough salt in my diet, I add a fair amount when boiling water to cook veg, rice, pasta. In my workouts I usually drink 3/4 to 1 litre of water from the gym water dispenser. It is chilled

Moi
11-May-2011, 10:59 PM
how much (table?) salt would you add to say a 500ml bottle of water?

Not sure, google is your friend. I have way too much in my diet to worry as I'm a smoker that likes to taste my food

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/hydrationandfluid/a/Sodium_Salt.htm

I think you can get sachets to add to water from chemists. Sports drinks contain the stuff so buying in bulk from a cheap supermarket or the likes of Home Bargins might bring the costs down

harukoraharu
11-May-2011, 11:39 PM
The nearest advice I can find is approx a quarter teaspoon full per quart (a bit less than a litre). I'll try this with some fruit flavouring on Saturday see how it goes :)

CosmicFish
11-May-2011, 11:39 PM
Moi's idea is a good one. If you don't like drinking salty water, Myprotein do a bottle of electrolyte tablets for about £6 you can just wash down in one mouthful. Shout if you want a link to the product. I used to get serious cramps as well and I started taking them for this reason.

Atre
11-May-2011, 11:48 PM
I can't verify that the ratio is correct (for perfect isotonic) but I use 50% water 50% fruit juice with a pinch of salt to sort me out after very long runs.

'tis good.

harukoraharu
11-May-2011, 11:54 PM
Looks like one of the below are going to be my best bet, and since my gym bag is already pretty heavy with that belt now, the tablets sound like a good idea. Thanks!

http://www.myprotein.com/UK/products/electrolytes_plus
http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/electrolyte_powder

Kuma
11-May-2011, 11:59 PM
Simple Gatorade works well too. Back when I played lacrosse in high school, I was getting some serious heat cramps in my calves due to low electrolytes. Gatorade solved that problem.

Frodocious
12-May-2011, 12:05 AM
I can't verify that the ratio is correct (for perfect isotonic) but I use 50% water 50% fruit juice with a pinch of salt to sort me out after very long runs.

'tis good.

This ^. It's a standard recommendation in a lot of sports nutrition books for DIY sports drinks.

harukoraharu
12-May-2011, 12:37 AM
I could try that too. Saturday afternoon session is when I really sweat, more of a mixed bag of stuff, more cardio, more reps of any other lift I didn't do in the week, more kettlebell, more dumbell, but then less stress, less IBS, less runs

Moi
12-May-2011, 12:41 AM
Bag of peanuts before training?

Frodocious
12-May-2011, 12:50 AM
And a banana (for the potassium) after training.

Ranzan
12-May-2011, 12:52 AM
Very easy, watered down gatorade.

righty
12-May-2011, 01:06 AM
There are suggestions above for home made stuff.

If you want something commercial and easy you can buy powerade and gatorade power (and a bunch of other brands) that you add to water to dissolve and drink. For cramps it's worth trying one that contains magnesium as this can help with cramps.

Something that mixes like this are the easiest to manage. I just put a tube in my gym bag in the summer and add it to my drink after filling it up at the gym. There's a bunch of other options at the site and I think UK gets free shipping from this place too.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/zym-endurance-electrolyte-tablets/

seiken steve
12-May-2011, 08:45 AM
ASDA do a sache of science in sport ellectrolyte powder for a quid, or a tub of the powder for 8-9quid.

aslo the chemist sells one, just go in tell them you have IBS and buy the biggest pack they've got.
its called Diecterol or something similar, i cant remember its name.

I get some every summer, its dirt cheap and only needs about 200ml to desolve.

KAMAU
12-May-2011, 08:50 AM
ASDA do a sache of science in sport ellectrolyte powder for a quid, or a tub of the powder for 8-9quid.

aslo the chemist sells one, just go in tell them you have IBS and buy the biggest pack they've got.
its called Diecterol or something similar, i cant remember its name.

I get some every summer, its dirt cheap and only needs about 200ml to desolve.

worth a try at that price steve, cheers for the info:cool:

harukoraharu
13-May-2011, 08:25 PM
ASDA do a sache of science in sport ellectrolyte powder for a quid, or a tub of the powder for 8-9quid.

aslo the chemist sells one, just go in tell them you have IBS and buy the biggest pack they've got.
its called Diecterol or something similar, i cant remember its name.

I get some every summer, its dirt cheap and only needs about 200ml to desolve.

Alas the only Asda in my area don't sell these tubs of electrolyte powder. :mad: Shame as I had some little cramp aftershocks during/after an hour and half of technique practice earlier tonight, popped into Asda on the way home as its just around the corner. They do sell protein powder though

simon s
13-May-2011, 08:36 PM
I use unrefined Himalayan rock salt. I get it from the local health food shop. It comes as small pink crystals and one or two in a large bottle of water hits the spot.

Moi's tip of not drinking cold water is a good one. Water does not get utilized until the body until it is heated to body temperature.

Just a few pounds and lasts for ages.

Moi
13-May-2011, 08:37 PM
Alas the only Asda in my area don't sell these tubs of electrolyte powder. :mad: Shame as I had some little cramp aftershocks during/after an hour and half of technique practice earlier tonight, popped into Asda on the way home as its just around the corner. They do sell protein powder though

Try Asda online?

seiken steve
14-May-2011, 11:32 AM
Alas the only Asda in my area don't sell these tubs of electrolyte powder. :mad: Shame as I had some little cramp aftershocks during/after an hour and half of technique practice earlier tonight, popped into Asda on the way home as its just around the corner. They do sell protein powder though

Bizzarley in my asda it isn't kept with the protien but with the red bull and energy drinks, maybe the same.


Also it's not in a tub but a big bottle, looks like a giant shake 'n' bake.

It is possibly the sweetest thing I have ever tasted.


I used to get it for summer BBQ season when I knew I'd be training in the morning but drinking the night before.
First drink would be electrolytes, would try and get a coup,e of pints of water in before bed and have an electrolyte drink in the morning when I woke up.

Moi
14-May-2011, 12:16 PM
Of course all the advice in this thread needs to be taken with a pinch of salt :)

simon s
14-May-2011, 05:35 PM
I have just submitted an article on sports drinks. It needs to be checked and passed by the heirarchy, but if passed explains the difference between the different types of drink, electrolytes and rehydration.

jumpfor joy
28-May-2011, 03:04 AM
I have just submitted an article on sports drinks. It needs to be checked and passed by the heirarchy, but if passed explains the difference between the different types of drink, electrolytes and rehydration.Cool! Looking forward to that, it was 87 in the gym yesterday by the time I got home my toes were cramping so freaking bad.

simon s
28-May-2011, 05:36 AM
Cool! Looking forward to that, it was 87 in the gym yesterday by the time I got home my toes were cramping so freaking bad.

jumpfor joy, the article can be found on the link below.

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101717

stephacts238
29-May-2011, 06:00 AM
I noticed alot of salt and sports drinks mentioned... you can also use pedialite it is a drink for babies/toddlers that is filled with electrolytes and can be mixed from a powder into water or just ni drink form itself

ladywarrior
17-Jun-2011, 11:17 PM
What I use is Nuunn's active hydration dissolving tablets. You put one tablet into a 16 oz. waterbottle and drink when it has fully dissolved. It restores optimal water and electrolyte balance more quickly. Hope that helps. :)

My favorite flavor is the tri berry http://tinyurl.com/3db2pau


Is there any supplement I can add to water to make my own rapid rehydration drink? I got a bad foot cramp about 2/3 of the way into my training earlier tonight. It was pretty embarrassing, couldn't move for about 10 minutes. I had the runs yesterday and with me sweating a lot was too low in sodium/ electrolyte levels.

I'm a bit prone to IBS and the runs so would need to prepare for this over the warmer months so although this was the first time at this gym I think it likely to happen again.

The only really helpful/on-topic thread that is recent is this one (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1207181#post1207181), but most of the products are drinks I've never heard of so probably not available in the UK. The drinks are okay but expensive, if needed more frequently. I know it's possibly less than some people spend on protein supplements though I have been considering a little bit of post-workout supplement too.

strafer
12-Aug-2011, 01:50 AM
I've just been drinking water mainly but I think I'm going to try out some supplements. Are these mesosilica (http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilica.php) supplements any good for post recovery? Either way I probably should be drinking something with electrolytes after training.