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TigerAn1
05-Feb-2004, 06:22 PM
Anyone else have recurring elbow joint pain from all the twisting? I've heard it's common at first and eventually subsides. Sometimes the pain just shoots up my arm if I move it too fast! Other times I feel like I can't open my arm up all the way- lock it out. Is this just a matter of getting used to having my arms convoluted twice a week, or is something else going on?

Our Master believes that a Hapkido student needs to experience some of the pain in order to effectively learn. I've read the same (Spear-'79). Do other's agree? How much pain is too much?

Ad McG
05-Feb-2004, 06:33 PM
You will get used to it.

Or you could have tennis elbow.

Jointlock
05-Feb-2004, 08:04 PM
I believe to learn the techniques effectively you must learn how you feel, but I also believe that you need to take precautions to protect yourself. Doing partner technique drills is not just one sided, the person doing the attacking can still learn in the process, and make themselves stronger.

Try not to let your elbow or any joint fully lock out. When done repeatedly it can seriously cause damage. During almost every technique that we do we try to stop with the muscle instead of the joints, this includes punching and kicking. Everytime I have an armbar done on me I never let my elbow fully lock out, because you are making your arm too vulnerable, and you're putting all of your faith into the person doing the technique. Still it can happen occasionally and sore joints are expected especially when doing Hapkido techniques.

shadow warrior
05-Feb-2004, 08:58 PM
Pay attention to the attitude of your partner while twisting. If they get a bit uncaring about your joints remind them that in a couple of minutes it will be "YOUR TURN" to twist them.

Your elbow has been strained a bit by someone who did not either understand the limit of the joint or was careless..some pain understanding in technique is part of the process..but you must always be aware of the person you are working with and do you best NOT to injure their joints..

You should also remember that younger female joints are 'softer' and more easily taken beyond their limits then mens..

Chan Fan
06-Feb-2004, 05:19 PM
I just recently underwent some x-rays to find out what is wrong with my left elbow. I have been experiencing sharp pain in the elbow and even some freezing or locking of the joint. As well, some tingling in my fingers.

The x-rays revealed small bone fragments that are putting pressure on the ulnar nerve that runs the length of my arm.

The surgeon says that this is likely the result of 10 years of training a little too intensely and at times improperly.

Although the bone fragments can be removed surgically (an option I have passed on for the time being), the damage to the joint is permanent.

I control inflammation with ibuprofen, and ice it often.

I suppose it is one of the inherant risks when participating in any activtity as grueling as martial arts, but still... the words "permanently damaged" still ring in my ears.

WorldChampTKD
09-Feb-2004, 05:19 AM
If you have tennis elbow theres this stuff you can buy called Glucosamine (i dont know if i spelled that right) that my dad and I drink (it tells you how much on the bottle) and it totally helps!